Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Sterling (entertainer)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 03:25, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Michael Sterling (entertainer)

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No WP:RS cited, fails WP:N. Delete. Basket of Puppies 01:08, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

I have added sources., 3rd party references for this article and would like you to re-consider your "nomination for deletion" You will find info on Mr. sterling from MTV.com, The New Times (Miami), itunes, youtube.com and more. Thank you Msmayer (talk) 04:12, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment The article says the song "Lovers and Friends" peaked at #3 on Billboard, which would meet WP:BAND, but says it never charted. Is there any source asserting the peak position? -- Sh i r ik  ( Questions or Comments? ) 18:49, 3 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment Here is the info where you can find that Lovers and Friends peaked at #3. It's right her on wikipedia under Usher (entertainer)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usher_(entertainer) and also here: http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:i4qGhLjeFNYJ:www.lyricsparadise.com/billboard-top25.shtml+lovers+and+friends+billboard+25&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us .Msmayer (talk) 19:30, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Ah, now I understand. Michael Sterling is the writer of those songs, not the performer. That means WP:BAND #2 does not apply. However WP:COMPOSER #1 and #3 applies for that song, through the section WP:NSONG which details "Songs that have been ranked on national or significant music charts, that have won significant awards or honors or that have been performed independently by several notable artists, bands or groups are probably notable." However we really need a verifiable, reliable source still. The site "lyricsparadise.com" does not strike me as meeting that criteria. Additionally, we cannot use a circular reference. However this source which was used in Usher (entertainer) seems to be reliable to me. Based on that research, I'd go with keep. -- Sh i r ik ( Questions or Comments? ) 20:09, 3 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep Based on he meets WP:PEOPLE's basic criteria, regardless of any special notability based on his performance or production of music.  Assuming mtv.com is considered a reliable source, that would also prove notability as far as WP:COMPOSER because he would be "credit[ed] for writing or co-writing either lyrics or music for a notable composition."   Fl ee tf la me   ·  whack! whack!  · 02:07, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
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