Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Yamashita


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Seraphimblade Talk to me 10:14, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Michael Yamashita

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Wikipedia articles, especially those in the category of Biographies of living persons, require in-depth coverage of the subject to be able to be written with a WP:NPOV. I believe that Yamashita does not fit the bill and falls afoul of WP:NJOURNALIST and the WP:GNG. It may be WP:TOOSOON; it may not, but his NFT does nothing to increase his notability. Therefore, I nominate this article for deletion. Psiĥedelisto (talk • contribs) please always ping! 03:43, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Artists-related deletion discussions. Psiĥedelisto (talk • contribs) please always ping! 03:43, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Photography-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 10:36, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Japan and New Jersey.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 21:44, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

Relisting comment: This needs more participation from other editors. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 04:24, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello @Psiĥedelisto @David Gerard
 * I spent the day adding Mike's ISBN #s for publications, adding links to various interviews, articles, papers, etc.
 * Mike is not as notable in the West as in Asia. I can't make the call personally on if he qualifies for a Wikipedia page or not, but I've added about 80% of the needed information. I still am waiting for clarification from the studio on specific dates and evidence for awards and accolades.
 * I do not plan to include any NFT references or information at this time due to the perceived controversial nature of them and the reception the section received here. At a later time, if the profile is kept, I may submit a draft of those activities for review, but there is no plan to re-add that section at this time. Note - I am not being paid for this work but I consider it journalism and contributing to the public good. This effort has also made me interested in Wikipedia as a historical preservation tool and I hope to contribute to additional articles. Psiĥedelisto commented to me in a message that Michael's prior profile, added 10+ years ago, hadn't been updated and wasn't in compliance with Wikipedia standards, so I believe my initial unqualified and non-complaint edits were a blessing in disguise and will lead to a more wholesome and up-to-date bio for Michael.
 * Drew Marshall Cryptohydrate (talk) 23:13, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi @Psiĥedelisto @David Gerard
 * I appreciate your attention to detail and upholding Wikipedia standards.
 * Based on the time Yamashita spent in Asia on National Geographic Assignments (34 full stories for the magazine, 40 years with the magazine), there is potential for his photography and documentary work to be considered notable.
 * Evidence provided below.
 * His work appears to meet the criteria for Criteria for Notable Photographers on the WP:HOPh WP:HPHOTOG pages. I did notice the AfD request appears on their page so it should be on their radar.
 * 3 Examples of meeting this criteria:
 * - His solo exhibitions, including the Wentworth Golf Club in London in 2022, the Wesleyan University in 2017, Jimmy Carter library in 2017, Pisa in 2018, (bullet 1 - 'whose work has appeared in at least one solo exhibition that has been noted in more than a merely local press'
 * - His contribution to the Guam stamp, (bullet 5 - 'who is significant historically (e.g. the first to photograph this or that)'
 * - His 1988 photography work at the US Marine Academy is searchable on the Library of Congress Authorities website: 'who is included in at least one of the following authoritative online resources.' (Bullet 8, Sub-bullet 3)
 * His work also appears to meet the Criteria to be included in WP:FILM:
 * - His documentary The Ghost Fleet won Best Historical Documentary at the 2006 New York International Film Festival
 * As far as Wikipedia pages he already appears on as a notable person where his profile was linked:
 * - Asian American from California
 * - Notable Asian Americans under the News/Media/Journalism section.
 * - Weslayan University People
 * - Chester Township, New Jersey
 * - Fine Arts section of People from Montclair New Jersey
 * - Notable Alumni from Montclair Kimberly Academy
 * I've also located several examples of mainstream media coverage and usage of his photographs, books and documentaries, including this New York Times article from 2005, this Tibet article in The Guardian, which is considered a newspaper of record in the UK, coverage of his Zheng He National Geographic project's photographs and documentary in this PBS article, usage of his photographs by the Nature Conservancy and the Smithsonian,
 * I'm going to slow my role significantly in regards to this specific page heeding @David Gerard's COI concerns, and I defer to him on based on his perception of the information I've provided, activity and edits. I do urge that the page fall under Cleanup and believe the links I provided in this talk page would be a good starting point for anyone from WP:HOPh to make the necessary updates to save the page using WP:NPOV standards. I hope my amateur editing skills and initial ignorance with regards to Wikipedia standards do not impact the decision. Yamashita's page had not been updated adequately with proper citations prior to my involvement, and included a brief NFT section with outdated and unimportant information that has since been removed. The article didn't meet current standards for Wikipedia, but I believe it could, and meet and even exceed the minimum standards for notability.
 * Open to your continued guidance and feedback,
 * Drew Cryptohydrate (talk) 04:53, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
 * @WomenArtistUpdates tagging you in case any of these citation are useful. Cryptohydrate (talk) 12:07, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Thank you Liz! Cryptohydrate (talk) 14:22, 31 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep Notable photographer.. I worked on it to make it more encyclopedic. Removed some promotional language and CV items. WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 02:37, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep There are two full articles about him: Professional photographer mag and Asam News. The latter is partly in the form of an interview, but has a fair amount of additional text. This is what is in addition to the sources on the page. He has published many books of photography - I don't think we can give him NAUTH for that, but it should could toward notability. I dont' know about the reputation of his publishers but it doesn't appear that he self-publishes. Lamona (talk) 23:53, 3 February 2023 (UTC)


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