Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michaelwood services


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  15:49, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Michaelwood services

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Simple trivia, primary sources only. -- DexterPointy (talk) 13:41, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete Am I missing something here? Am I overlooking some kind of historical significance or something? It looks like it's just a run-of-the-mill truck stop. It fails WP:ORGCRIT. PCHS-NJROTC  (Messages)Have a blessed day. 14:03, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
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 * Delete article does not establish any kind of notability and is not well sourced. Tillerh11 (talk) 19:00, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOTGUIDE, WP:NOTDIR and WP:GNG. This is hardly a major shopping complex, it's a service station with a few shops attached. Ajf773 (talk) 23:03, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - not notable enough to have an article and what is here is tending towards trivia. Dunarc (talk) 18:48, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
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 * Merge to M5 motorway; it's a valid topic and there's verifiable information that a red link or redirect to the current version of the target article would not provide. Peter James (talk) 15:36, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - run of the mill service area. Bearian (talk) 20:04, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - Would prefer to merge into one huge article but as one doesn't exist I guess the only option is deletion, Anyway non notable service station, Fails GNG. – Davey 2010 Talk 20:58, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. See WP:ROADOUTCOMES, Articles for deletion/Donington Park services, Articles for deletion/Norton Canes services (2nd nomination). This issue has been discussed extensively in the past and has been decided to keep all British motorway service areas. They are established by statute and are major complexes. They are not just "truck stops". It is not productive to delete a single example, when there are articles for all of them. See Category:Motorway service areas (United Kingdom). -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:31, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
 * ROADOUTCOMES is an essay, not policy. We should not automatically assume that because something is "generally notable" in an essay topic that it is inherently notable in Wikipedia policy. Who also made the decision that service areas in Britain (but no other country) were generally notable? If it was on the basis of an outcome of a mass AfD (which was always going to end up as a trainwreck) then the fallback should consider reliable sources if there are any. Shopping centres covering a larger area and a greater number of facilities aren't always notable and I don't see why smaller services areas should have a higher status. Ajf773 (talk) 22:34, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
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 * Delete fails WP:GNG and WP:GEOFEAT (does not fail WP:NOTGUIDE, though.) Of the AfDs cited above as precedent, one is from 2006 when notability was different, and the other was a trainwreck, so precedent isn't clear. Roadoutcomes mentions the UK is different than the rest of the world, but again, it's not policy - this one fails WP:GNG at the moment and I can't understand why you'd have a keep for the UK. SportingFlyer  talk  04:20, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Also note the ROADOUTCOMES was added here, based on the result of the Norton Canes services AfD, and seems to have sailed by for awhile: 16:01, September 6, 2009‎ Jeni (talk | contribs)‎ . . (21,859 bytes) (+157)‎ . . (Added per WP:Articles for deletion/Norton Canes services (2nd nomination) and previous AfDs. I have no issues discussing if this is considered a controversial addition. (WP:BRD)) (undo | thank) SportingFlyer  talk  04:26, 19 July 2018 (UTC)


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