Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michalis Spanos


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The result was   delete. JForget 15:37, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Michalis Spanos

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I'm puzzled by this one, found while checking BLP prods. I could document only the membership in the Greek football club Panathinaikos, --which is not mentioned in the article. I could find no refs in the Googles for the others. There is however at least one Michael Spanos in American football. As it is not my field, I wonder about the accuracy and authenticity of the article, and hope the people who know more about sources for this sport can help with this.  DGG ( talk ) 16:40, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 17:08, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Athletes-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 12:41, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

the content of the article is correct. there is a soccer player michalis spanos in greek football!he is a central defender and as far as i know he has indeed played in italy some seasons ago.only that last seasons he has not been playing in the super league of greece but in the second and third national division! he is indeed born in 1981 as far as i know and i also think he is from florina that is a town in the greek-yugoslavian borders. having this in mind i think that the article is correct..as there are many common things with this player to be considered a co incidence —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.119.50.111 (talk) 01:26, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

the article is authentic.Michalis Spanos was indeed part of the roster of AEK ATHENS in the past but he just did not had more than 4 or 5 caps with this club! he certainly did better in Italy and became more known in Greece when he came back and was a major contribution to some second division clubs such as Kalamata and Ethnikos Piraeus!although i have no data about him signing to Aris salonica but on the other hand it may be something fresh as the up coming transfer season in Greece is in one month. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.119.50.111 (talk) 01:31, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Do you have a reliable source to verify any of that? Currently the only "source" in the article is a forum which seems to be concerned with some sort of football fan fiction set 13 years in the future (and fiction certainly is the right word for it with content like "Watford is the absolute favorite for the Champions League title").  There's no mention of him on the squad page of the Aris website.  I'm inclined to think this might all be a hoax.... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:57, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

reliable sources for that are websites of the above mentioned teams!i found him in fc Kalamata roster 3 seasons ago..and was also in the ethnikos Piraeus roster until last january!these are facts from greek newspapers ,football mags and also there are highlights of him on a sports show on NET channel that covers the action of the second division every week! in the year that Padova FC was promoted from c1 to serie B he is also part of the roster!was not so hard to find! Obviously he is not a hot shot player or whatsoever..but its not that the guy does not...exist!he is known in athens!as far as the end of the article that he is signed by Aris...indeed in the clubs websight there is no official report but there are some websites (contra.gr ,sport-fm.gr,sportime.gr) that within the last month have this as a rumour spreading!that he will eventually sign there with the start of the official transfer window!i dont know more on this.


 * I couldn't find any mention of this person on RSSSF, EPAE or other websites likely to have an article about an AEK Athens footballer. I'll try a few more, but I suspect most of the information is a hoax. Jogurney (talk) 13:56, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Neither sport.gr nor insports.gr had any hits for Μιχάλης Σπανός. Jogurney (talk) 16:19, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I checked Ethnikos Piraeus' second division matches from the 2008–09 season, and no one named Michalis Spanos appeared in them (or even on the bench). If he is mentioned in Greek newspaper articles, please link one of them here because I can't find any. Jogurney (talk) 19:47, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 * "was not so hard to find" - then it shouldn't be too hard to add sources to the article to confirm any of its content..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:48, 21 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete until someone comes forward with a source to verify the information in the article. I've checked several sources that would cover a person playing in the Greek second division and none of them have a mention of this person. Jogurney (talk) 19:49, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete unless sources are provided to confirm any of the article's content, of which there are currently none -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:48, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - if he IS real, he still fails WP:ATHLETE and WP:GNG. GiantSnowman 21:36, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * delete content and sources questionable, I believe the article in its present state does more harm than good.--Paul McDonald (talk) 03:29, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
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