Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michel Chrétien


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. The BLP problems are insurmountable.  DGG ( talk ) 19:33, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Michel Chrétien

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Michel Chrétien is the adopted son of Jean Chrétien and Aline Chrétien. He is a private citizen and not a public figure, and is utterly non-notable in the Wikipedia sense. Sources exist on him, mostly because of his criminal record, and also because he's the son of a prime minister, but he does not pass the notability guidelines on account of his criminal activities, nor does he inherit the notability of his adoptive father, nor is there any reliable source out there that covers him in any kind of details other than mention the that he's a) the son of PM, b) has a criminal record). Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 04:43, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Not to be confused with Michel Chrétien (scientist), the brother of Jean Chrétien, a well-known and decorated medical researcher. Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 04:45, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Evano1van(எவனோ ஓருவன்) 09:46, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. Evano1van(எவனோ ஓருவன்) 09:46, 11 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep some significant coverage to write an article with: . The second source seems to indicate Michel has become iconic ("the elephant in the room") of the issue of whites adopting Native children in Canada. One thing to remember is that WP:INHERIT is an essay called "Arguments to avoid making during an AfD" ie. I GreenC believe Michel is notable because he is the son of the PM. No one is making that argument and so INHERIT doesn't apply. The INHERIT essay doesn't trump actual sources or GNG, even if those sources are discussing Michel in the context of family relationships, for notability purposes the existence of sources is what matters. -- GreenC  08:41, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 01:43, 21 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete - if he's only notable for his father then he can get a paragraph on his father's page (which is all he needs) Neonchameleon (talk) 03:20, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete: no transfer of notability by relation, his criminal charges are non-notable, and his adoption is not covered in much depth, more as an example of a notable broken process but his adoption wasn't any more notable than all the rest. One of GreenC's links refers to him as "Michael" Chrétien, but I didn't find sources under either spelling variation. Ivanvector (talk) 06:19, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete, Neonchameleon puts it best. The 'criminal charges' section is NN per BLP1E, and if you take out that, there's no other real assertion of notability outside his father. Daniel (talk) 11:26, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.