Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michelle Chang (Tekken)



Michelle Chang (Tekken)

 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Withdrawn. GlatorNator (ᴛ) 07:49, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
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Just like Craig Marduk, she also seems to be lacking WP:sigcov. No actual commentary from reliable sources about her being a Native American besides a book Promoting and Preserving Indigenous Languages and Cultures in the Americas Through Video Games. Most of her content were trivial nor listicles also. Failing WP:GNG. GlatorNator (ᴛ) 12:37, 19 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions.  GlatorNator  (ᴛ) 12:37, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions.  GlatorNator  (ᴛ) 12:37, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment - Your example source is a pretty good example of coverage showing real-world importance. If any more sources can be founds I'd be leaning more towards keep. Sergecross73   msg me  23:27, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm fine with that; as long as it's not a passing mention or listicles, I'm happy to withdraw this if found more. GlatorNator  (ᴛ) 23:51, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
 * "Representation of Native Americans: From Literature to Video Games" (Google it, file is said to have a security risk so I won't link it here). Keep, and please stop making these AfD nominations. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 00:32, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Seriously, this run of AfDs is bordering on disruptive, and the only benefit is if you really want to exhaust people into no longer wanting to fight to keep them. A discussion could have been had to determine whether Michelle Chang fulfilled notability standards instead. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 00:44, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Abryn/MsDusa. That's your only opinion. Most of them were closed as merge. Only Reptile or possibly this could survive. Not disruptive enough yet but I'll admit I disruptively confirm Julia Chang and this as not notable before even I discovered the native american books. Was gonna withdraw but one user below disagreed with it and also CBR can't be used for notability purpose. GlatorNator  (ᴛ) 04:05, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * If I didn't search for these sources, this would likely be closed as being merged. That's my point - instead of doing due diligence, you're rushing articles to merging or deletion as if you have a deadline to meet. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 05:31, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep: Yeah, I'm a little surprised here. You'd think a lesser known Tekken character like Michelle wouldn't get the coverage, but it looks like she has. I guess her being Native American, just like Julia, helps. In addition to the sources Cukie Gherkin brought up, there's also this. MoonJet (talk) 01:25, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge to List of Tekken characters. Sorry, but I am left unconvinced by the presented sources. They seem like the most blatant attempt to make people believe WP:RS exist when Google has just been skimmed for passing mentions of the character. If not, please explain exactly how much of each source is devoted to discussing this character specifically. I am only seeing single sentences and captions with each of these. I would also note CBR is a "content farm" style site in the manner of GameRant which has been trotted out again and again with these AfDs. Additionally, WP:NOTAGAIN arguments should be off limits until it is actually proven that the AfDs are facing overwhelming consensus they are incorrect. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 03:16, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * One of the sources straight up discusses Michelle Chang in detail for three pages. If that is your definition of passing mention, I feel deeply skeptical of your judgment. The alternative explanation is that you ironically only skimmed the sources linked instead of ensuring that they were actually "passing mentions." In which case, I would ask that you be more diligent in formulating your arguments before you make them.
 * Also, I didn't propose WP:NOTAGAIN, I expressed my ire that editors are rushing articles through the AfD process for no reason and risking merging notable subjects due to their needlessly scattershot approach. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 05:36, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I apologize if I was being overly harsh in my assessment there. I am very used to such tactics being used, especially when the content of the sources is not actually noted and several links are listed one after the other, but I admit my error that the first source does seem to be significant coverage for Julia/Michelle Chang. While this doesn't change my !vote in this instance, I insinuated it contained no significant coverage, which was a mistake caused by my belief the source stopped before it actually did. That said, it was not a bad faith attempt to hide legitimate sources, just a mistake. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 06:09, 21 April 2023 (UTC)


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