Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michelle Font (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Miss Washington USA . Redirect is always preferred over deletion and consensus is to redirect the non-notables so closing as such (non-admin closure) – Davey 2010 Talk 23:08, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

Michelle Font
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Michelle Font is only noted for being Miss Washington USA, and this is not enough to make her notable. The previous discussion was a mass one that closed on the assumption some of the people might be notable. Despite an attempt to claim that all Miss USA state winners were default notable, the close clearly shows that they need to be shown to be notable on an individual basis. While this article is much better fleshed out than some, I have seen ones with assertions from 2005 on what the career goal of a given individual was without any indication if they had made any progress towards that goal in the ensuing decade, the way this article is fleshed out is just not workable. Her ancestry being Puerto Rican and Cuban is sourced to facebook. Her career over the last decade is sourced to Linked-in. Those are just not the type of sources that show a person is notable. John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:43, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Washington-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 15:37, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. North America1000 16:52, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions. North America1000 16:52, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Redirect to Miss Washington USA as a valid search term, and the subject is mentioned there. North America1000 16:52, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:BIO1E; not independently notable. K.e.coffman (talk) 04:05, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep for now. Discussion about notability guidelines has already started on the Talk page for the Beauty Pageant project.  No harm will be done by closing this nomination as "keep" and letting the project-level discussion take its course.  NewYorkActuary (talk) 04:15, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — UY Scuti Talk  17:14, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment: The discussion on pageant winners' notability is taking place here: RFC on creation of consensus standard, with participants variously advocating that (1) state level winners are not presumed notable, (2) state-level winners are not presumed non-notable; or (3) a special guideline is unnecessary, and that GNG should be used. There's an overlap between the these three positions. There aren't really voices for "state-level winners are always presumed notable" so I don't think the outcome of the discussion, if any, would have an impact on this AfD, which is trying to establish whether the subject meets GNG. Thus it may not make sense to suspend the AfD process for this nomination. K.e.coffman (talk) 03:40, 21 August 2016 (UTC)


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