Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michigan Bucks


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep per WP:SNOW. (non-admin closure) Kraxler (talk) 17:28, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Michigan Bucks

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Contested PROD. Fails notability criteria. Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:04, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - USPDL-clubs, as a rule, do appear to be notable. (see this afd for example). The club also meets the club notability guidelines laid out at WP:FOOTYN having played in the Lamar Hunt Open Cup. Sir Sputnik (talk) 19:24, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
 * That's not how it works. If this team is not notable, then this article should be deleted. Find sources. I could not. Walter Görlitz (talk) 04:08, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. Toffanin (talk) 23:08, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. Toffanin (talk) 23:08, 28 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep - playing in the 4th tier of US soccer is notable. GiantSnowman 09:02, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Fourth tier in England is notable. It's not in the US. Second tier barely achieves recognition in the US. Even if it were, this team is not. Please proved RSes that this team is notable. Walter Görlitz (talk) 16:54, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - The article clearly documents two decades of playing in the Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup clearly meeting the requirements laid out in WP:FOOTYN. Other past AFDs for other teams in this league started by the same editor have also established clear and near-unanimous consensus despite not meeting those WP:FOOTYN requirements. Teams at this level typically meet WP:GNG with examples such as . Nfitz (talk) 20:21, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Closing admin: Please note that the arguments in favour of keeping do not use any guidelines or polices. The team does not have any reliable sources. being a member of a notable league does not make the team any more notable than being a non-notable band on a notable record label. Walter Görlitz (talk) 04:57, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Closing admin. Please note that User:Walter Görlitz has a history of nominating teams in this league for deletion, despite precedent-setting near-unanimous rejection. Please also note that while WP:FOOTYN is neither a guideline nor a policy, it does represent community consensus and may be consulted for assistance during an AfD discussion. Nfitz (talk) 00:11, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I have a history of nominating a number of non-notable subjects for deletion. The fact that this team is not notable while the league currently meets notability guidelines should not be conflated. If you can't keep classes and their objects separate, it's time to stop editing . That seems to be the case for you and several other editors here. Walter Görlitz (talk) 03:48, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - The applicable notability standards for sports teams (and all other organizations) are WP:ORG and WP:GNG, which this subject easily satisfies with significant coverage in multiple, independent, reliable sources in the U.S. midwestern regional media. Here's a sample: ; there are so many articles from the Michigan regional media, I'm not going to bother linking individual examples.  Anyone interested can feel free to sort through the Google results.  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 22:42, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
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 * Keep Passes GNG per Dirtlawyer. There is a decent amount of local attention for this team. ~ EDDY  ( talk / contribs ) ~ 15:43, 1 September 2015 (UTC)


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