Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mickey Finn (drink)


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The result was   delete. Tim Song (talk) 02:49, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Mickey Finn (drink)

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Contested PROD. I cannot find significant coverage of this drink, almost every reference in the article was written by the company, and the rest are brief mentions. - EdoDodo  talk 12:32, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

The drink is primarily sold in Ireland and the UK and has a sizeable following, demonstrated by the number of followers on BEBO: http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=3454460358 Also the fact that they are sponsoring the driver that is currently top of the GP3 standings demonstrates that they are a brand which has unique appeal. It is also sold by Tesco, one of the biggest supermarket chains in the Uk and is the second most bought liqueur in Ireland. Pictures inlcude: http://www.onlineofflicence.ie/products/1258389891.jpg The brand also sponsors the Irish cocktail making competition: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1uizabx6nY They are also involved with the bar wizards who have some notability: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGsSf5bV6Fg Given the fact that they have such a prominent position in the Irish and UK markets, I feel they justify an entry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Doylewiki (talk • contribs) 12:48, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment Then we can have some RS suppooting notability.Slatersteven (talk) 12:56, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment We are told "the fact that they are sponsoring the driver that is currently top of the GP3 standings demonstrates that they are a brand which has unique appeal". Surely that just tells us that the manufacturers have paid to get publicity for their product, or have I missed something? In any case, "has unique appeal" is not a claim of notability by Wikipedia's criteria. Doylewiki's other arguments are also of little or no relevance. For example, the fact that it is sold by Tesco does not indicate notability: notability is not inherited. JamesBWatson (talk) 11:32, 25 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete. Whatever else happens, this should be moved to Mickey Finn (liqueur).  We also have Mickey Finn (drugs), which was what I expected to read about under this title.  The corporate spin on the legend of Mickey Finn is an interesting, but likely inaccurate, take; they seem to be talking about the same legend, though.  Google News is not showing a large number of reliable sources talking specifically about this brand of liqueur or schnapps . - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 14:19, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions.  Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 14:19, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Further to what I said earlier, I agree that it'd be best to move the article to Mickey Finn (liqueur) as it is more appropriate, just didn't think of it at the time. www.mickeyfinn.ie/ explains how the company links in with the legend as contained in the article. It's flash driven so a direct link cannot be provided but it's in the history section once you go on the site. Also there is a plethora of news pieces related to the status GP team and their relationship to the brand which shows the importance of the group such as: http://www.statusgp.com/news/2010/05/08/mickey_finn_to_sponsor_robert_wickens The brand also gets a mention at the World Spirit Awards judgement: http://www.world-spirits-guide.com/topeintrag.php?typ=DES&eintrag=98215&betrieb=DES This shows that further to the points I've already raised, it has a wide reach in many fields and as such ought to be included, though I'll move it to Mickey Finn (liqueur) as it makes more sense. Thanks for the help in improving the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Doylewiki (talk • contribs) 14:48, 24 May 2010 (UTC)


 * I am also nominating the following related pages because it is a cut and paste copy of the original article, minus the AfD header:
 * - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 17:09, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Have taged that for speedy as it dups this main article. Codf1977 (talk) 11:11, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Has been deleted by an admin. -  EdoDodo  talk 15:02, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Another article mentioning the brand: http://www.beverageworld.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=37388:babco-europe-in-with-the-new&catid=64&Itemid=176 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Doylewiki (talk • contribs) 10:38, 25 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete Despite the concerted efforts by Doylewiki, there is still no evidence of any substantial coverage in independent reliable sources. Note: Doylewiki is a single purpose account, used only for adding information about drinks marketed by BABCO. JamesBWatson (talk) 11:03, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete as per nom and JamesBWatson Codf1977 (talk) 11:12, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Pure promotion. Only claim to notability (second most in Ireland) is a self published source. Article content consists of its name (products do not inherit notability from the person whose name was used), properties (alchohol and fruit – like 10,000 other drinks), flavors (not encyclopedic), and Promotion & Sponsorship (doesn't even mention Wikipedia). Fails WP:GNG. Johnuniq (talk) 11:37, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
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