Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Microprose Systems


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy close — nomination withdrawn along with a consensus to merge, which can be discussed in further detail at Talk:MicroProse. AfD is no longer needed. Non-admin closure. MuZemike ( talk ) 07:15, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Microprose Systems

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Per WP:CORP and WP:CRYSTAL. Website offline since September. This non-notable company which is just 6 months old and sells TV converters, got mentioned in some blogs because of the name association to MicroProse Software, which ceased to exist in 2001. EconomistBR 17:42, 20 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game related deletions. MrKIA11 (talk) 17:55, 20 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: Further discussion relative to the AFD is also located here. --Marty Goldberg (talk) 18:16, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Merge relative info with Microprose. Company was a licensor of the brand and properties from the current brand owner Patrick Leleu, publicly announced a line of products through press releases and interviews, went through a public CECB certification process (and is currently up on the certification site) and several other related issues. Likewise there is the current press release I was just sent (via CG.Com), detailing the unlicensing and merger of MicroProse Systems and MicroProse CED in to a new company -

''Legacy Engineering Group Parts Ways With Microprose Brand New York, NY. – October 20th, 2008 – Legacy Engineering Group (LEG) announced today the discontinuation of their licensing agreement with Frederic Chesnais and Interactive Game Group (I2G), owners of the Microprose® brand and related properties. This discontinuation affects LEG subsidiaries Microprose Systems and Microprose Consumer Electronics Division, which have been combined and rebranded Legacy Consumer Electronics (LCE). The Microprose Systems and related websites will no longer be maintained or hosted by LCE, and all domain ownership will revert to Frederic Chesnais. LCE is continuing to move forward and release the previously announced and eagerly anticipated product line of professional gaming controllers, PSP power accessories, entertainment center components, and exciting games. This includes the recently announced Classic USB Joystick Controller for $14.99.

About Legacy Engineering Group: Legacy Engineering Group© and its subsidiary Legacy Consume Electronics© are a developer of video game accessories, consumer electronics products, and video game software. Web site: www.legacyengineer.com. About I2G: Interactive Game Group (I2G) is a company acquiring, financing and licensing video games and other interactive entertainment properties, whether packaged media, online or wireless. Created by Frederic Chesnais, former Chief Executive Officer of Atari Interactive, Inc., I2G develops and finances a portfolio of video game properties.''

--Marty Goldberg (talk) 18:01, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge to Microprose. There's not enough verifiable sources for the article to stand on its own. Would also fit better in the parent article. MuZemike  ( talk ) 18:46, 20 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Merge with MicroProse. not enough notability for a split. -- neon white talk 20:39, 20 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Withdraw nomination - In the light of the new information provided by Marty Goldberg I withdraw the nomination.
 * Micropose Systems still exists just under a different name, Micropose Systems became Legacy Consumer Electronics and the brand Microprose was returned to the Interactive Game Group. Merging a company that still exists to Microprose would not work since the company now has a different name, instead I prefer to withdraw the nomination. EconomistBR  04:06, 21 October 2008 (UTC)


 * While the corporation has been reformed under a new name, that still leaves the issue that it was operating as a Microprose licensee and releasing press releases as such over the past year, and certification was granted for its tuner box as part of the Microprose brand. I still think the material should be merged, as people here have stated it does not have enough verifiable sources to stand on its own but is a part of the Microprose brand history.  If Legacay Consumer Electronics gets enough notable sources to warrant an article on Wikipedia (which it currently does not have), it can always be created again under that with a short summary discussing its previous connection to the Microprose brand. --Marty Goldberg (talk) 04:24, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Legacy Consumer Electronics has no longer any sort of affiliation to the MicroProse brand, therefore hosting an article about that company on the MicroProse article would be a mistake. A merger would only confuse readers since they would be redirected to the company's old name.  EconomistBR  04:51, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I think you're a bit confused on what is being stated. Nobody is stating to merge info about Legacy Consumer Electronics or redirects.  The discussion of this AFD and the consensus so far is to merge the information about Microprose Systems, which no longer exists as a name and brand, and was/is a valid and documented part of Microprose history via the material reported above.  Likewise, Legacy Consumer Elecontrics is a newly formed entity that has no press or notable coverage as of yet, so it does not warrant an article on Wikipedia.  It was being suggested that when it does, an article for it can be created with a brief section on its past association with the Microprose brand as Microprose Systems.  There is not confusion to readers, that would only occur if you were merging a Legacy Consumer Electronics article into Microprose and redirecting Legacy Consumer Electronics to Microprose, which is not happening and was not being called for. The consensus is for merger of Microprose Systems, which did have an affiliation to Microprose, and did have public press, reviews of products, etc. --Marty Goldberg (talk) 04:59, 21 October 2008 (UTC)


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