Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Microsoft Puzzle Hunt


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Vanamonde (Talk) 15:44, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

Microsoft Puzzle Hunt

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This has been marked as needing sources since 2013, and it has none at all. 331dot (talk) 13:11, 22 July 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  14:06, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Games, Business,  and Popular culture. 331dot (talk) 13:11, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep: A WP:BEFORE check comes up with a few sources.[][] User:Let'srun 14:12, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Strong Keep A major event at one of the largest companies in the world that's been going on for 23 years and has inspired events at other companies (Amazon, Google, Facebook, and many smaller companies, etc.) belongs in Wikipedia. One spinoff is Microsoft Puzzleday, one of the largest recruiting-related events at Microsoft (and probably any company). MSPH has been written about in, among other places, WIRED and GAMES magazine. The word "puzzlehunt", coined for Microsoft Puzzle Hunt 1, is now the word used to describe any event with a series of puzzles and meta puzzles (the word has even appeared in the NY Times). On the comment of needing sources, I think the reason is that it's nobody's job to add sources and this is not an incredibly important article. Here's one piece in WIRED (https://www.wired.com/2011/09/trains-of-thought-inside-the-microsoft-puzzle-hun/); I believe there was another. I don't have a reference to the GAMES article handy, but it was 2002 or possibly early 2003 (GAMES articles are not available online, so somebody with physical copies would have to find it). Note: I was part of the founding team of MSPH 1, but I think that is irrelevant here. RoyLeban (talk) 08:30, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Here's a reference to the Tableau Puzzle Hunt, also inspired by MSPH. https://www.tableau.com/tableau-developer-puzzle-hunt Not only shouldn't the article be deleted, but it should be expanded to discuss it's inspiration (the MIT Mystery Hunt) and what it inspired. Of course, that takes somebody who wants to spend the time. RoyLeban (talk) 08:34, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Weak delete [changed from 'delete' per discussion with Soni] A Google Books search pulls up a few passing mentions, and there are those two articles User:Let'srun mentions, but the first is hardly substantial. The second, from WIRED, is the best source for notability I can find, but I don't think that alone warrants GNG. I see no reason this can't be folded into a sentence or two at Microsoft. StereoFolic (talk) 03:51, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
 * @StereoFolic The first article is indeed substantial. Perhaps you are paywall-blocked, and so did not realise there's a larger article beyond the one paragraph mentioned?
 * I have been following this discussion but have not yet participated because I cannot yet locate the GAMES magazine article discussed above. I currently believe the two articles linked might be enough to meet GNG already. If I find the GAMES article/it's reliable and significant, that will definitely be enough to meet notability. Soni (talk) 16:16, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Ah yeah, I missed that paywall, thanks for pointing that out. Having read the article properly now, I'm still unsure if this meets GNG. I agree the GAMES article would help answer this more clearly. I will defer to editors with more AfD experience than my-new-self. StereoFolic (talk) 16:30, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. I have been unable to find the GAMES article yet. But based on the two sources we currently have, the notability seems marginal but sufficient enough to be there. Full disclosure, I am aware of this article from my other communities/discussed this article there in the context of finding more RS. Soni (talk) 08:06, 5 August 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.