Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Midnight Trains


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 20:56, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

Midnight Trains

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Notability concerns. The Guardian and CNN are major news outlets, but the articles read like paid placement. There's literally nothing here other than hype. User:力 (power~enwiki, π,  ν ) 03:03, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
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 * Keep - the cited articles read fine to me and show significant coverage of the topic. Also, there is a difference between paying for an article in a major publication and having an advertisement in a major publication. This time the first one applies, and it still contributes towards notability, in my view. versacespace  leave a message!  05:50, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment Does the Guardian publish paid articles? I wasn’t aware of that. It seems antithetical to their ethos. Thriley (talk) 15:43, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep I doubt prestigious publications like The Guardian and CNN would fail to disclose paid placement. Here are additional sources with various levels of depth:
 * Jumpytoo Talk 18:36, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Jumpytoo Talk 18:36, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Jumpytoo Talk 18:36, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Jumpytoo Talk 18:36, 11 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment I'm not saying it's paid placement like an ad, I'm saying that their PR firm pre-wrote the same article for a bunch of lazy reporters to publish. Like Paul Graham's Submarine article. User:力 (power~enwiki,  π,  ν ) 21:00, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep the Guardian and CNN articles are both different, so I'm doubtful they're simply press releases. Agreed with above commentators that the Guardian would not fail to disclose paid content. Additional sources have also been provided above. NemesisAT (talk) 20:10, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep Really doubt that the Guardian would publish undisclosed paid content.Jackattack1597 (talk) 15:30, 18 July 2021 (UTC)


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