Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Midtown High School


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Kraxler (talk) 18:45, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Midtown High School

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non-notable fictional high school; does not meet WP:GNG —Мандичка YO 😜 01:03, 19 July 2015 (UTC)


 * You are rushing the deletion nomination. I am not not done working on it. Jhenderson  7 7 7  01:12, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * It's not going to change its notability (or lack of). —Мандичка YO 😜 01:22, 19 July 2015 (UTC)


 * I already put one reliable first party source on there. I am confident I can find more. Like this one. Maybe more than the article Empire State University and the Daily Bugle already has...if you have given me time. You were just stalking my work and decided to be hasty and determine what is notable just by seeing what's already on the article. This is infuriating! Jhenderson  7 7 7  01:40, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Why oh why would I (or anyone) be stalking your work? I have no idea who you are and as far as I know have never interacted with you. Btw, as soon you choose to create an article on WP, anyone can edit it any way they want, including nominate it for deletion. If you have a problem with that, create your own Wiki only you can edit. —Мандичка YO 😜 02:06, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't mean you stalked me. I mean you noticed my edits by noticing my contributions probably on the recent edits page. Also you're right. You don't know me. If you known what kind of editor I was. You could have told me how you felt about the notability or placed a prod and I would have put it in the incubator. Where I would have worked on it. In fact I promise you that I will incubate it if you would speedy close this right now. Because I am not in the mood for this. You have made a huge waste of time for me now that you AFD'd this article. It's not possible for me to add to this article now. I am a busy man in the real world personally. It's late where I am at and I am not active Sundays and Wednesday due to church and work. I would speedily delete it but I want the work saved and I will contact a few other editors to help work on it for me. Words can not express how aggravated I am right now. I am sure you are a good editor just like I strive to be...but this was a stupid and unnecessary act in my humble opinion. Jhenderson  7 7 7  02:34, 19 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Even Variety acknowledged it. Spider-Man being in high school isn't a minor plot device of Spider-Man. Also guess what. It's always Midtown. It has appeared in numerous media. Almost all the Spider-Man movies. It's going to appear again. Almost all the animated series.  Also please none of this it's only reported because Spider-Man is notable. Usually when they are referenced this much in a news source like Variety, they at least deserve to have a redirection of themselves. Not deleted. Not to mention that I planned to use this article as a redirection to a certain fictional character. ALSO  to any new editor that decides to vote on it. This article had potential to expand. It was going to be expanded. This article doesn't look like much right now only because of the AFD. I can still make it better. But I won't do it while I still have to discuss and defend it. That's too much of a mutli-task.  Jhenderson  7 7 7  02:57, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Look at all these "unreliable sources" (keep clicking the rest of the pages. Of course the first results are Wikis etc.) when you google it properly. This isn't even counting google news or google books.  Jhenderson  7 7 7  03:23, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

,,,  Jhenderson  7 7 : 7  03:57, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I may have found more or the same amount of sources compared to The Daily Bugle, the Baxter Building, Lexcorp, Latveria and  Oscorp. Yet you compare it to a couch you own?  Jhenderson  7 7 7  04:32, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * It seems you are unaware of the requirements for notability on Wikipedia. None of those discuss the subject of your article (the fictional high school) in-depth. You should also be aware that, contrary to your claims accusing me of somehow singling you out or stalking you, all new pages appear at Special:NewPages and that new pages are patrolled: the checklist for new page patrollers specifically states: if you believe that the article is not salvageable, either propose it for deletion or nominate it for deletion, whichever is more appropriate. You have plenty of time to find sources for your article. Good luck.  —Мандичка YO 😜 04:33, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * That's what I said you did. You must have missed that comment. I corrected myself with the word "stalking". Also I am just proving it has coverage. I also read that guideline. I agree to disagree that these sources are not proving general notability. Jhenderson  7 7 7  04:51, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:40, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
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 * Allow Userfication back to contributor as requested above and allow him to continue work outside the ticking clock of AFD. The article is not a policy violation, and I can understand his angst... as his work was brand new and less than one-hour old when it was nominated, and the only notice he receeived of possible problems was when the AFD notice appeared on his talk page. Editing since 2009, he is no newb, and a little courtesy would have been in order. I say we allow him to continue his efforts out of article space.  Let a better article be considered in a few weeks, if it must be so.  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 06:48, 19 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Agree with MichaelQSchmidt. There are several non-fiction books about Spider-Man, or which include Spider-Man, that talk about this fictional location &mdash; one that's as important to this canon as Smallville is to Superman. And the fact that in 1962 or '63 that it was placed in a real-life location, New York City, rather than in a fictional Metropolis or Central City, etc., makes it a small milestone. I would urge contributors to this article to find creators talking about how and why they devised it and how it is used as a story element &mdash; it can't be all fictography.--Tenebrae (talk) 14:04, 19 July 2015 (UTC)


 * According to this. It was based on this high school. I guess that's a start. Jhenderson  7 7 7


 * Also regarding pop culture. It was listed on this book next to many other popular fictional schools like Hogwarts, the X-Mansion and Starfleet Academy. Just one of maybe many to come. My only complaint is that I am not finding valuable information for the article with books like these. Commentary, reception and behind-the scenes development would be the best thing to maybe stop the deletionists at their track. Jhenderson  7 7 7  19:12, 19 July 2015 (UTC)


 * It can be returned to your draft space where you can improved at your leisure and without the ticking of the clock.  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 23:54, 19 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep - Let this page stay. I have just modified it with the student and faculty info as well as it's media appearance. It should at least be left to be improved on by other people that might have other history on it like Spider-Man's fights with Sandman and Living Brain. --Rtkat3 (talk) 00:36, 20 July 2015 (UTC)


 * I have the information in a userspace for now while redirecting it. But you are definitely welcome to expand it on the userspace or put it back to the mainspace if you feel strongly about it. I didn't notice your modifications. I hope I didn't mess it up somehow when I did all that. Jhenderson 7 7 7  00:44, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

I am requesting a speedy deletion of the actual title because I made too many errors moving it to my userspace. All the correct history is still in my userspace. I will just move that userspace back to the article until the consensus is over. Jhenderson 7 7 7  01:05, 20 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Sorry, but your moves were done during the course of the AFD. I have moved it back with history to the proper article name-space. Let's wait this one out, shall we?  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 01:42, 20 July 2015 (UTC)


 * That's all I am asking. I just had an misinterpretation of something you said. I am the one who should be sorry. Jhenderson  7 7 7  01:52, 20 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep. As said above: Midtown High is almost as important to Peter Parker as Smallville is to Superman. Spidey  104  02:13, 20 July 2015 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.