Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Midway Drive In


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 00:33, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Midway Drive In

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Contested PROD: Non-notable local drive-in with no reliable, third-party sources as to notability/inclusion on Wikipedia. -- moe.RON   Let's talk  21:24, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Asserts notability as the state's oldest drive-in, but that claim isn't backed up by any reliable sources. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Many otters • One hammer • HELP) 21:37, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  -- — LinguistAtLarge • Talk  02:53, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep as asertions can be sourced and as a fading American icon, it certainly has a little better coverage than a mall. Rockford Register Star, Sauk Valley News, Chicago Tribune, Herald News, Cinema Treasures, Radish Magazine, Z-Events, Box Office Mojo, and at least it can be sourced of being one of the 2 oldest per Encounter Lee County, and one of the last 12 per Driveinmovie.com, and is the host of Slasherfest. They speak of themselvs at The Midway Drive-In.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 05:23, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * None of those is a non-trivial source, though. I think Driveinmovie.com is a personal website that may be a WP:SPS. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Many otters • One hammer • HELP) 13:37, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry that I cannot consider the articles in Rockford Register Star, Sauk Valley News, Chicago Tribune, Herald News, or Radish Magazine to be trivial. Granted I am less impressed with Cinema Treasures, Z-Events, and Box Office Mojo, but Encounter Lee County does source it as one of the 2 oldest in the state... and Flashback Weekend shows its resurgence in its hosting Slasherfest. And yes, Drivein Movie is simply a listing, but shows its continued existance in the light of the disappearance of such icons.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 18:14, 2 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep Seems to have been covered by the Chicago Tribune and Baltimore Sun . ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:37, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Can you link to that actual Chicago Tribune articles? When I refined the search, I got the following . As for the Baltimore Sun, all it does is mention the owners and the drive in in passing. -- moe.RON   Let's talk  01:26, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Wikipedia will end up like Yellow Pages if every non-notable business is permitted a promotional article. --Johnnyturk888 (talk) 11:34, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I thought the same thing myself when I began seeing articles pass AfD that were about supermalls and shopping centers. The point made at those AfDs and now being made here is that notability is granted through coverage in reliable sources, and that trumps any worry about a paperless encyclopedia running out of space. As long as the article is not itself promotional in tone and follows guidelines and policiy, it is allowed... even if about something not of earthshaking importance.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 18:04, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Notability establish by reliable sources. Drive-Ins are always going to have a special place in U.S popular culture. -- J mundo 05:43, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Sources only need to be non-trivial when the mere existence of these sources is used to establish notability. That's not the case here. The claim to be one of the two oldest in the state is the claim to notability here and it appears to be verifiable. - Mgm|(talk) 10:58, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Illinois-related deletion discussions.  --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  23:01, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.