Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mietinen Young


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The result was   delete. WP:SNOW. – Juliancolton  | Talk 00:12, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Mietinen Young

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Unsourced and never will be sourced. Doesn't exist, probable hoax. Never happened.

No version of history or documented sources support this article. Franamax (talk) 10:39, 26 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete I prodded this as a probable hoax a few days ago, I'm interested in early exploration and have encountered a number of fringe theories re pre-columbian ocean crossings, and this was a new one on me and one of the least credible. "In circa 1438 they accidentally crashed ashore of the Hudson bay". If there had been an expedition that long before columbus that mapped part of North America it would be sourcable.  Ϣere Spiel  Chequers  11:33, 26 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete. No sources, no ghits other than copies of this article. Probable hoax, since, as WereSpielChequers says above, you'd think there would be some references if it were true. Anaxial (talk) 11:36, 26 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete. Quite probably a hoax, absolutely no Google search results outside of Wikipedia. ←  Spidern  →  11:58, 26 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete, arguably speedily as a deliberate hoax. I have never encountered the personal name 'Mietinen' in English history, and my moderately extensive knowledge of North Atlantic exploration has never revealed any such incident as the one described. 'Bay of South'? Honestly, if you're going to hoax, learn to write convincing English. AlexTiefling (talk) 14:15, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Mietinen, I would interpret as being a Finnish surname, it did show up when I was searching this in other contexts. Irrelevant though, unless sources are found - and pre-Columbian maps of Hudson Bay and sourced accounts of landing there, oh wouldn't we be smiling?!:) Not to be I suspect... Franamax (talk) 14:52, 26 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete if you're sure no reliable soures can be found.  ♪Tempo  di Valse ♪  14:30, 26 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete probable hoax, if this was generally accepted or even a significant fringe view it would get at least one Google hit, so either it was made up or it has zero acceptance. Either way it shouldn't be here. Hut 8.5 16:31, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions.  --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  19:36, 28 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete. The only thing I can add is that there are also no hits in gbooks or gscholar. -- Fabrictramp |  talk to me  19:38, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete -- WP:HOAX. Reached Hudson's Bay about 50 years before Columbus reached West Indies! Wholly incredible.  I know there are other contenders for the first to America, but this cannot be one of them.  Peterkingiron (talk) 14:22, 29 March 2009 (UTC)


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