Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Migration of the disadvantaged


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The result was   merge to Gentrification.  MBisanz  talk 01:03, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Migration of the disadvantaged

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This article utterly lacks any documentation to suggest that it is anything but the creator's own original research/opinions. This is especially evident considering that the only attempt at a reference made by the author (whose page indicates that he is from Finland) is what appears to be his/her experience with the alleged phenomenon in Finland. The article, taken as a whole, seems to indicate a leftist bias on the part of the author, and it is in any event a useless article since the concepts the on which the author tries to speak are covered in the gentrification article. Articles like this are a disgrace to Wikipedia; let's clean this up quickly, folks. E Pluribus Americanus (talk) 06:08, 26 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete hodgepodge of references don't seem to support this as more than a commonly used, incidental phrase. Disadvantaged people often migrate—DUH! Potatoswatter (talk) 07:33, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Social science-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 12:07, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
 * It only took me two minutes with Google Scholar to come up with:
 * As Potatoswatter states, poor people migrate. And as the above shows, people make serious study of their doing so.  There is no reason that a verifiable encyclopaedia article cannot be written on this subject.  And no, it's not the same as gentrification.  The only reason for thinking that is that this article is currently bad.  That's a reason for Cleanup, which AFD is not.  I notice that the nominator even mentions wanting this article cleaned up. Keep. Uncle G (talk) 18:58, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Indeed, poor people do migrate--they also eat, sleep, use the bathroom, and so forth. That said, the topic "bathroom habits of the disadvantaged" is perhaps suitable for a less-than-interesting doctoral thesis, but certainly not for Wikipedia. E Pluribus Americanus (talk) 23:56, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - subject for a good thesis? Quite possibly. Subject for an encyclopedia article, at this point? No way. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  01:05, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge to Gentrification. When wealthier people move into a gentrifying area, the previous/disadvantaged residents don't just evaporate:  they move out of the gentrifying area.  The term gentrification is about what happens to the geographical location; migration of the disadvantaged is about what happens to the humans.  WhatamIdoing (talk) 01:33, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep per Uncle G. Cosmic Latte (talk) 19:07, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment This article is Finland specific. I've personally never heard of poor people moving out to rural areas from the city. There are many reasons that is backwards from most of the world: farming is difficult, initial transportation to the rural area is expensive, and more property is necessary for survival. A title like Urban exodus in Finland would be less outrageously broad and ineffectively covered. Potatoswatter (talk) 17:29, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * delete there's already a lot of relevant migration articles. Don't even get me started on how we define/contain "disadvantaged" for the purposes of an encyclopedia article.Bali ultimate (talk) 21:36, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge in part to Demographics of Finland or some other Finland-related article. The article describes a phenomenon apparently specific to (or, as far as we know, only identified in) Finland. As such, it is inappropriate for a standalone article at this point.  Sandstein   21:08, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep per Uncle G. Cosmic Latte (talk) 19:07, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment This article is Finland specific. I've personally never heard of poor people moving out to rural areas from the city. There are many reasons that is backwards from most of the world: farming is difficult, initial transportation to the rural area is expensive, and more property is necessary for survival. A title like Urban exodus in Finland would be less outrageously broad and ineffectively covered. Potatoswatter (talk) 17:29, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * delete there's already a lot of relevant migration articles. Don't even get me started on how we define/contain "disadvantaged" for the purposes of an encyclopedia article.Bali ultimate (talk) 21:36, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge in part to Demographics of Finland or some other Finland-related article. The article describes a phenomenon apparently specific to (or, as far as we know, only identified in) Finland. As such, it is inappropriate for a standalone article at this point.  Sandstein   21:08, 31 October 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.