Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Migration of the eight clans


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The result was redirect to Uprising of the Five Barbarians. Xymmax So let it be written   So let it be done  01:23, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Migration of the eight clans

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Potential hoax. I didn't find any reliable sources on the matter with Google, but I'm not that concerned about that given its non-Western nature. What's more concerning for me is the fact that the Chinese-language Wikipedia doesn't have its own article on the topic. I even checked the Chinese Wikipedia (w/ a machine translation, admittedly) in case someone had forgotten to add it to the "Languages" sidebar and still nothing came up. Even if it turns out that this isn't a hoax, I think we can/should redirect this to the Jin Dynasty article. John M Wolfson (talk) 21:30, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of China-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 21:34, 1 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment likewise I can’t find anything to support this (in English). Perhaps an admin could look at the edit history of the closed account of the article creator to see whether they created anything else (other possible hoaxes?) that would help determine at least whether thus as a good faith creation? Mccapra (talk) 22:04, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 22:24, 1 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment There are now interwiki links. It is my personal opinion that searches done using machine translation should not be considered as valid WP:BEFORE checks, and there are WikiProjects that can help. (WP:CHINA in this case). At the very least, this is not a hoax. _dk (talk) 22:28, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment Thank you for providing interwiki links. I no longer think this is a hoax, although none of the interwiki links cite any sources, so I'll withhold final judgment on the matter until at least one does. I think we should discuss its notability or redirect potential regardless of hoax status. John M Wolfson (talk) 00:17, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Possibly Redirect to Uprising_of_the_Five_Barbarians where the migration is already briefly covered in context: "The 'Eight Great Surnames' were eight noble families who migrated from northern China to Fujian in southern China due to the uprising of the five barbarians when the Eastern Jin was founded, the Hu, He, Qiu, Dan, Zheng, Huang, Chen and Lin surnames.[3][4][5][6][7][8][9]" (see the linked article section for the footnoted references). 24.151.50.175 (talk) 15:37, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect per 24.151.50.175. John M Wolfson (talk) 16:43, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect This is a well known historical event in China and by no means a hoax. However, the article is in terrible shape, and a redirect would be best until someone writes a better sourced article. -Zanhe (talk) 08:17, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect per 24.151.50.175. -MA Javadi (talk) 17:56, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Uprising_of_the_Five_Barbarians per 24.151.50.175. Even the corresponding article in Chinese Wikipedia zh:八姓入闽 does not have sufficient content. -- 94rain  Talk 08:41, 8 May 2019 (UTC)


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