Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Miguel De Los Santos


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The result was   no consensus. No clear consensus for deletion. As a BLP it needs better citation. (non-admin closure) BusterD (talk) 10:59, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Miguel De Los Santos

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A minor-league baseball pitcher that has never risen above AA ball. Currently playing for the Myrtle Beach Pelicans, a A+ baseball team (unfortunately he lost while pitching yesterday). Article states he is on the Texas Rangers active squad. Unable to find a reference where he ever was during the regular season. Fails WP:WPBB/N and WP:GNG as only WP:ROUTINE is found. Bgwhite (talk) 08:00, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
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 * Keep From my experience, it is general practice to keep players who are actively on 40-man rosters. If anything, merge to Texas Rangers minor league players. Alex (talk) 09:21, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
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 * Delete Fails WP:WPBB/N and WP:GNG. There is only WP:ROUTINE coverage in independent sources. 40-man roster is only temporary (e.g. failed prospects) and does not guarantee notability. I see no reason to redirect when the existing text is just reciting statistics. —Bagumba (talk) 21:47, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep, meets WP:GNG. As with most young players added to a team's 40-man roster, covered at length in multiple bound periodicals related to baseball prospects, including the 2010 and 2011 editions of The Newberg Report (a Rangers-specific source) and the 2011 Baseball America Prospect Handbook (not available online, ISBN 1932391347). -208.81.148.194 (talk) 16:17, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:23, 7 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - There is a lot of no consensus on this discussion, because both thoughts are either split away (talking about different subtopics) or not converging, the article itself is filled with dubious information, starting with "a minor league baseball pitcher currently on the Texas Rangers active roster", however in the roster template he is in the inactive roster, the article also says that he has been featured in thirteen games, however I can't find a reliable source which provides context based on what is said, the article is also non encyclopedic, just ask yourself, if I read this article what don't or won't know/understand about the subject, which it utterly fails to fulfill, the article is also written in a complex way for common readers (written in a too specific manner that only people inside the scope of the article understand), periodicals are not a way to suffice notability, he must be covered by major sports revenue such as ESPN, Fox Sports, YES, Illustred Magazine, Sports Weekly, which I couldn't find a hit. Eduemoni↑talk↓  18:46, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment Basically the crux of your argument is based more not on article worthiness, but on article quality. Those are two different things. De Los Santos played for the DSL Rangers in 2006. You're making up rules in the latter part of your argument. Alex (talk) 22:36, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
 * "periodicals are not a way to suffice notability, he must be covered by major sports revenue such as ESPN, Fox Sports, YES, Illustred Magazine, Sports Weekly, which I couldn't find a hit." These delete votes from you seem to have a trend: they consistently make things up.  Agent Vodello OK, Let's Party, Darling! 13:44, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep or merge per Alex. The article needs work, but that is not a reason to delete.  And there is no requirement in any guideline I am aware of for a player to be covered by a "major sports revenue such as ESPN, Fox Sports, YES, Illustred Magazine, Sports Weekly." Rlendog (talk) 20:27, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge to Texas Rangers minor league players. Spanneraol (talk) 14:32, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep since prior consensus is that a player on the 40-man roster is notable. If it's absolutely necessary that this player not have an article, then please merge a sizable amount of this article with Texas Rangers minor league players. I'd rather it not be merged. Under no circumstances should this be deleted outright. Whoever has time to work on this article if kept, please add information from this article on August 1 titled No-Hit Bid Carries De Los Santos To Carolina League Award. This article needs cleanup and expansion, not deletion just because it's a thousand times easier.  Agent Vodello OK, Let's Party, Darling! 15:56, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
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