Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Miguel Garduño


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. The strongest argument on the keep side is that these players have all played in one of two professional leagues, and that is sufficient to meet WP:FOOTY. On the other side of the fence, I was particularly unimpressed with the argument that stubs are inherently bad because they confuse the search engines.

On balance, while the head-count numbers are pretty close, the better arguments are on the keep side, enough so that I'm calling this a consensus to keep. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:31, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Miguel Garduño

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTY. This user is notorious for making these types of quick, dime by the dozen articles on Mexican footballers. I am also nominating the following related pages because they are players also in the third division that fail the same criteria. JTtheOG (talk) 07:09, 9 January 2016 (UTC)




 * Delete per nom. Curro2 (talk) 07:15, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete These articles fail WP:GNG by a mile.—azuki (talk · contribs · email) 08:19, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep all - Sources listed in all of these articles confirm that they have all played either in Liga MX or Ascenso MX, both of which are fully pro, meaning all of these articles meet WP:NSPORT. Sir Sputnik (talk) 15:36, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Sir Sputnik (talk) 16:24, 9 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete all. If they're not notable, of course delete.  If they are, delete per WP:TNT.  Such tinily stubby articles are more of a harm than a help: they turn links blue (so it's not obvious that articles are needed), and they produce tons of Wikipedia-related hits in search engines, making it significantly harder to find good sources.  If they were at all useful, this wouldn't matter, but these pages are so minimal that they won't help the reader.  Nyttend (talk) 19:52, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment As Sir Sputnik pointed out, they do have experience in the top two divisions, but Nyttend is right. WP:TNT should apply to these types of articles. JTtheOG (talk) 20:11, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep all - as they all meet WP:NFOOTBALL. Need improving, not deleting. Has the nominator even searched for sources per WP:BEFORE? GiantSnowman 22:11, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - Not sure why we are here if even the nominator agrees they meet WP:NFOOTY. I don't see how WP:TNT could ever apply to a stub. Articles need improving. Nfitz (talk) 15:34, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - While I am skeptical of the treatment of Ascenso MX at WP:FPL, each of these articles satisfies WP:NFOOTBALL under the current treatment. Also, bundling these nominations is incredibly unhelpful - I recognized Nungaray and was easily able to demonstrate GNG-compliance for that article with 5 minutes work. I suspect most (if not all) of the other articles can be GNG-compliant with some work.  If the nominator looks and finds nothing (per WP:BEFORE), I am willing to reconsider (especially if particular articles are nominated individually). Jogurney (talk) 23:12, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete All - Per nom. Although this user does create some articles of players that should have one, it does create many for players that shouldn't have one.  GoPurple  'n  Gold24   02:00, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep all passes WP:NFOOTBALL.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 03:59, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
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 * Comment - I'm not sure if these articles satisfy the notability or not, but with the exception of Ernest Nungaray they are some of the worst footballing articles I've seen on Wikipedia. Most articles consist of a general reference and a short sentence and that's about it. If these articles pass this AFD than they will all should be vastly improved. Inter&#38;anthro (talk) 06:17, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep all - articles are as porr as they can get but the sourcing indicates NFOOTY is met. Fenix down (talk) 15:51, 15 January 2016 (UTC)


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