Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mihai Ioan Botez


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) JAaron95  &#40; Talk &#41;  15:16, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Mihai Ioan Botez

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No independent sources attest notability; all citations are to the subject's own work. - Biruitorul Talk 14:17, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete: some papers, but a few hundred citations are not enough to meet WP:PROF. No evidence of meeting other WP:PROF criteria or WP:GNG. Esquivalience t 14:33, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep. Searching Google scholar for author:mi-botez I find citation counts of 170,161,148,123,109,108,101,... enough to convince me of a pass for WP:PROF. I'm pretty sure these are all his and not by someone else with a similar name: the first six are all on brain function, and the seventh (a letter on folate deficiency and pregnancy, ) is off-topic but the affiliations match the particulars of our article. The French obituary linked at the bottom mentions an honorary doctorate, generally a sign of notability. (It also hints vaguely at various academy memberships but unfortunately without supporting detail.) —David Eppstein (talk) 23:20, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sam Walton (talk) 21:05, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Strong keep - h-index of 22.  Easily passes WP:ACADEMIC.  —Мандичка YO 😜 03:31, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 * —Мандичка, can you please include the link that got you the h-index of 22? I only see a 5 in G-Scholar, but perhaps you are looking elsewhere? Thanks. 142.254.111.113 (talk) 00:10, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
 * It's Google Scholar, but I changed to "M.I. Botez" instead of Mihai Ioan Botez. Everything appears neurology related. Actually I just checked again and h-index went to 103.  —Мандичка YO 😜 00:58, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
 * This is really odd, because I just copied your search query and did it on G-scholar and got a maximum (non-normalized) h-index of 35. This makes me wonder greatly about the reliability of these numbers! Note our (WP) own caveatH-index about using G-scholar for h-indexes, due to the fact that its algorithm also picks up minor- and non-publications that are not generally considered scholarly (e.g. unpublished conference papers). LaMona (talk) 19:34, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Actually, I got 35 too. Then I hit the "load more sources" or whatever and it shot up to 103, so changed it on here. I would think even 35 is quite sufficient. Still, even the calculator is of course unreliable, David Eppstein (who tends to have good knowledge of academics) just glanced at the citations as showed up and also believed it met WP:ACADEMIC.  —Мандичка YO 😜 05:37, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I believe we need more than citation counts to determine notability. I'll see if I can find something more substantial. LaMona (talk) 15:08, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep - Romanian sources say here and here that he was a foreign honorary member of the Romanian Academy since 1993. Romanian and French Wikipedia say he received a Dr.h.c. from Carol Davila University of Medicine and Pharmacy, albeit without stating sources. Passes WP:NACADEMIC #3. Kraxler (talk) 22:00, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

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