Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mihran Manasyan


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The result was delete. slakr \ talk / 08:21, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Mihran Manasyan

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Recreation of an article previously deleted by PROD. Concern was Article about a footballer who fails WP:GNG and who has not played in a fully pro league. This remains valid. Sir Sputnik (talk) 17:04, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
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 * Keep - He played and scored in the UEFA Europa League qualifying round, he is a professional player in a fully professional club. However. I have expanded the article to include more details about the player from several sources.--Spetsnaz1991 (talk) 09:46, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - Fails WP:NFOOTY as has not played senior international football nor played in a fully professional league. No indication that subject has garnered significant reliable coverage for any other achievements to satisfy GNG.
 * Comments above by Spetsnaz1991 are misguided. Current consensus is that NFOOTY is only satisfied by participation in contental competition when the player in question has played firstly in the competition proper and secondly is involved in a match between two clubs both from fully professional leagues.
 * Furthermore, the argument that Alashkert is a fully professional club is irrelevant. full professionalism needs to be league wide and there is no consensus at WP:FOOTY that the Armenian league is fully professional.
 * The sources provided in the article do not satisfy GNG:
 * Soccerway - is just a database entry, these exist for thousands of players across the world and do not amount to significant coverage.
 * Alashkert - is a profile on the club's website. As a primary source, this does not support GNG.
 * Yerkir - although this is dedicated to the player, the interview is very short amounting to four brief questions and answers and is not significant coverage.
 * BBC - this is a routine match report where the subject is mentioned tangentially. The focus is on the match between his club and St Johnstone not the player. Again not significant coverage. Fenix down (talk) 09:24, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
 * More sources were added.--Spetsnaz1991 (talk) 10:20, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not seeing GNG through the addition of an interview of reasonable length and an article which seems to talk in more general terms about Armenian top scorers than the player himself. Fenix down (talk) 11:42, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment As it is neither listed in the "professional" nor in the "not professional" section at WP:FPL, are there any sources to determine the respective status of the Armenian Premier League? The outcome of this investigation would be crucial for this and potentially other AfDs. – Soccer-holicI hear voices in my head... 07:41, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 11:00, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — ☮ JAaron95  Talk  10:17, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - per nom. None of the sources seem to be enough to pass WP:GNG Spiderone  20:01, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - I agree with the arguments above. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 05:06, 2 September 2015 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.