Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mike Constantino (MMA trainer)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. ✗ plicit  23:35, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

Mike Constantino (MMA trainer)

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Probable COI/vanity page. Removed a bunch of promotional fluff and page doesn't meet notability. Nswix (talk) 20:29, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Sports,  and Martial arts. Nswix (talk) 20:29, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete "Famous guy that works with other famous people" isn't notable. Very much a vanity page. I don't find extensive (or much of any) coverage for this individual. Oaktree b (talk) 20:32, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
 * That statement was entered by another individual which does not describe Michael Constantino's career. It would be pre-mature to delete Mr. Constantino's page when he clearly has had an extensive truthful career. I feel the comment should most definitely be deleted but not any other information including the page. Vdm2011 (talk) 21:06, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
 * So he's not famous? That isn't helping the discussion. This is a fluffy piece with no indication as to why he's notable, with no links to extensive coverage in anything close to the New York Times or the like. Oaktree b (talk) 15:23, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New Jersey-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 21:16, 27 March 2023 (UTC)


 * I understand your concern, however Mr. Constantinos page is a bio of his accomplishments in his career in MMA and other fields. Successful training of many fighters who went on to become UFC champions. It hardly qualifies for a deletion.
 * The quote " Famous guy who works with other famous people was never added by his team. As wikipedia is a community effort we can not control the outcome of individuals content" Thank you. Vdm2011 (talk) 21:33, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Correct, we're here looking for reliable sources that mention the subject so we can keep their article. Oaktree b (talk) 16:53, 28 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Comment None of the coverage can be considered significant independent coverage of him. I got a 404 error on several and the others were, at best, interview questions after fights.  Successful is not the same as WP notable. Papaursa (talk) 22:11, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Respectfully. I beg to differ. The coverage is not the only accomplishment listed on his page. He has an extensive bio beyond "coverage". There are wikis with a lot less skilled individuals. Vdm2011 (talk) 22:25, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Please just show me the coverage that meets WP:GNG and I'm more than willing to support this article. WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a reason to keep. Papaursa (talk) 01:46, 28 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete Fails WP:GNG due to lack of WP:SIGCOV. Alvaldi (talk) 19:45, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:GNG. Additionally his training center, AMA Fight Club, may also not be notable after looking at those refs. Best, GPL93 (talk) 00:01, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't believe that either this article or the one on his club has the significant independent coverage required to meet WP:GNG or any other notability criteria. He's not even mentioned in some of the references on fighters he's supposedly trained.  I was thinking about voting for a redirect to the club article but it doesn't seem notable to me, though a redirect would be reasonable (at least as long as that article exists).  Both were created by an SPA. Papaursa (talk) 04:34, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I nominated the club for deletion, it's clearly Promo. It has even less sourcing than this guy's article does. Oaktree b (talk) 03:11, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * VDM2011 has only edited this article, one about the club and two fighters. They went silent for a decade until this nomination, oddly enough. Oaktree b (talk) 03:15, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete For the reasons I've previously mentioned. Papaursa (talk) 03:24, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. Non notable subject, notability is not inherited. Shawn Teller (hy/hym) (talk) 12:42, 3 April 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.