Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mike Dred


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Please bring up copyright concerns in the appropriate forum as that is an important concern. Liz Read! Talk! 04:29, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

Mike Dred

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Poorly sourced BLP about a musician who doesn't appear notable per general or music-specific guidelines. I wasn't able to find online references to the artist beyond primary sources, a single album review on Medium, and a number of blurbs in aggregators and concert announcements which appear directly plagiarized from Wikipedia (one of which was, unfortunately, added as a citation to the article after I mentioned it on Teahouse). Was unable to verify the other citations. Box of wolves (feed) 04:28, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Box of wolves (feed) 04:28, 21 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep. Subject meets WP:BASIC. I was able to verify the source for one claim in the article and it has a couple pages of solid SIGCOV . If we consider that in tandem with the AllMusic bio attributed to a staff author, which is largely focused on musical style/label details, and not "riskier" biographical details we have a clear meeting of BASIC. There's a fair amount of other nontrivial-but-short coverage about this performer that is not dependent on Wikipedia, as well. Note this subject appears to be held as a very important figure in Acid Techno, and may also meet WP:NMUSICBIO. &mdash;siro&chi;o 06:36, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh jeez, no idea how I missed the AllMusic one. I haven't been able to find a copy of the Rough Guide, but if it supports the claim that he's important to acid techno I'd agree on WP:NMUSICBIO and either way WP:BASIC seems unavoidable. Prepared to withdraw this and start looking at cleanup if nobody says any different. Box of wolves (feed) 07:12, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 14:47, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment: While doing some more research and cleanup planning, I discovered that the original revision is likely to be copy-pasted from Dred's autobiography on his own website (archived: ). The dates check out (archive scrape before article creation), and the text is character-for-character identical. Large parts of that page are still present in the article's Acclaim section — i.e. all revisions will have copyright problems. Going to bring that up at WP:CPN but figured it's probably worth mentioning here as well. Box of wolves (feed) 23:34, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
 *  Week Keep. In addition to Box of wolves said above, he possibly meets WP:MUSICBIO for being on 2 major labels. 2 of the labels he was on have a Wiki page, which could indicate that they are notable labels. Hkkingg (talk) 09:11, 22 July 2023 (UTC)


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