Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mike Gabler (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__ to Survivor 43. ✗ plicit  03:47, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Mike Gabler
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The first nomination made at time of the article's initial development was closed as "kept", but I have some concerns about the arguments made. Most of the "keep" votes were based on assumption that winning Survivor just once is an automatic pass of notability. Those such arguments were made in AFD nominations on a few or several other articles about Survivor winners, like Natalie White and Bob Crowley, yet those AFD discussions resulted in "redirected to [X]". Furthermore, the closure was done by a non-admin who has edited for a few years. I contacted that closer, but no response yet to this date.

Well, one of "keep" voters cited significant coverage. However, I'm unconvinced that it (and WP:GNG) can override the longstanding WP:BLP1E or WP:BIO1E, either of which may apply to this article. This person became notable solely for winning Survivor 43 (and donating all his winnings to charity), and I don't see one reliable source verifying his notability as a heart valve specialist or for anything else also as significant as the Survivor 43 win. In other words, consensus can change, and the page must be redirected to Survivor 43. George Ho (talk) 00:25, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Television,  and Medicine. George Ho (talk) 00:25, 13 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Frankly, I think some of the keep votes in the first nomination were based on WP:ILIKEIT rather than actual notability arguments; examples being an editor saying that "historical precedent in regards to Survivor and media coverage says otherwise" in response to a relist noting that winning Survivor doesn't mean notability and an editor with just 22 edits and no other edits to AfD voting keep. I don't think AfD nominations should be closed unless it is WP:SNOW, withdrawn, or a nomination with invalid reasoning, which wasn't present. The article fails WP:BLP1E and the sources are either too short or contain too much interview to qualify for WP:SIGCOV in my opinion. JML1148 (Talk &#124; Contribs) 09:43, 13 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete WP:ONEEVENT. The only sourcing is in the lead. The completely unsourced body of the article is not encyclopedic at all. It reads like a play-by-play narrative of the event. — Maile  (talk) 23:19, 13 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete as per nomination doesn't looks like an encyclopedia article
 * Shaikha Habiba (talk) 08:11, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Blocked as a sockpuppet. Courcelles (talk) 14:34, 18 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Survivor 43 per BLP1E. AryKun (talk) 12:29, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Idaho-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 12:27, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Survivor 43 per WP:BLP1E. The event is notable enough for people to be searching for him as the winner of Survivor 43, particularly since he did something different from other winners by donating his winnings to charity.Darthjoey91 (talk) 22:03, 18 May 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.