Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mike Hawkins (musician)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Per the sources cited by Alsee, which have gone uncontested for almost a week. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:02, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

Mike Hawkins (musician)

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Declined speedy - makes a claim to notability. Sources appear flimsy but may well have enough to pass AfD. Black Kite (talk) 09:18, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - Fails WP:BASIC, WP:ANYBIO, and WP:MUSICBIO. No reliable secondary sources to support notability.  Magnolia677 (talk) 09:22, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment: It looks like that I could use help with improving this article and making it more notable. Could you guys help out please? Thank you. - XPanettaa (talk) 14:23, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
 * @XPanettaa It's a bad idea to call selected editors to a deletion discussion (or an RFC). This can look like a WP:CANVASSing attempt to bias the outcome. When the discussion is closed, votes by canvassed persons may be evaluated extremely skeptically, or may disregarded completely. Also we can't "make it more notable". Something is Notable if Reliable Sources have written about it. Either the sources exists, or they don't. We find Reliable Sources to show that it was Notable. Alsee (talk) 18:23, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
 *  Keep or redirect - Either keep, or redirect to Armada_Music, his new record label. --Jax 0677 (talk) 14:47, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
 *  Comment - I meant to say, redirect WITH HISTORY. --Jax 0677 (talk) 17:32, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

Infopage100 (talk) 17:12, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
 *  Keep - I feel that this article has quite the potential to be a highly notable effort. Considering the fact that Mike Hawkins the DJ has been in business for nearly ten years, there's probably a lot to write about concerning him. It takes time to build a masterpiece, and sometimes it takes more people to help fully develop it. "Mike Hawkins (musician)" is that masterpiece; all it really needs is faith and obviously, time. So put forth the page with enough faith and time, and it surely will be completed. In my opinion, deleting this page would merely be the same as aborting a not fully developed, beautiful work of art by an artist, all because of the art's status at the current time. Just like the artist needs more time to perfect what he invisioned, us Wikipedians need more time to do the same as well. So in culmination to my argument, I declare this page's notability as "great," and I ultimately say, "yes" to keeping this article alive.
 *  Reply -, WP:N, WP:NOT, WP:RS. --Jax 0677 (talk) 17:32, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I have added the "Background" section to this article, in which case should add information about this artist. XPanettaa (talk) 17:55, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Denmark-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 12:04, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 12:04, 7 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep. I was effectively canvassed here, but that doesn't matter because I've got sources to cite. The first thing I did was go through all the sources in the article. I almost !voted delete because the article sources are either not Reliable, are of doubious Reliability, or are indiscriminate catalog listings. But then I did a search and came up with solid Reliable sources:
 * Billboard_(magazine): here
 * Vibe_(magazine): here
 * DR_(broadcaster): (Denmark's national broadcasting corporation) here
 * There is also minor coverage in multiple internet-music-news sites that may debatably pass as low end Reliable Sources. Plus whatever sources I missed. Alsee (talk) 18:23, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I'll look in more detail later, but let me just note that the creator thinks that Beatport and Facebook are reliable sources. Drmies (talk) 23:34, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
 * So yes, there's canvassing here, which is not OK, and--this is important to note for the creator, XPanettaa--the sources provided with the article are unacceptable. However, did a nice job coming up with references that are more than just a mention of the subject, and the Billboard article, for instance, suggests that this is not just a flash in the pan. (Thank you.) So I'm going with keep and urge the other to look at the abovementioned sources again--Xpanettaa, please provide more better reliable sources, and base your articles on those sources, not on these terrible sources you routinely use in the articles you write. AfD is not for article improvement (well, it shouldn't be), and all this is just wasting time which wouldn't have been necessary if this had been done right from the get-go. Thank you also  for getting this show on the road. Drmies (talk) 02:56, 12 October 2016 (UTC)


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