Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mike Rhyner


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The result was   keep. (Non-administrator closure) NorthAmerica1000 09:39, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Mike Rhyner

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No WP:RS coverage outside the Dallas area, just what you would expect from a local radio personality. Not notable. John from Idegon (talk) 20:12, 12 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep, I have added some sources to the article. Antrocent (&#9835;&#9836;) 00:02, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment Thanks for adding more references. However, a passing mention in book not about him or even his field of work is not anywhere near enough coverage outside the immediate area of DFW to show notability.  Local radio personalities are not notable unless you can show some disperse coverage of them. John from Idegon (talk) 00:21, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
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 * Additional comment Today I have removed all the puffery and unreferenced junk. Seriously, who cares what team he liked when he was a kid?  The station's advertising slogan has no place here.  Etc, etc, etc. There is virtually nothing left. John from Idegon (talk) 20:38, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I have reintroduced the content and beefed it up. I hope it now meets your standards. I feel like these details are relevant given that his public image is his sports personality Antrocent (&#9835;&#9836;) 21:36, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Additional passing mentions in books do nothing to vet his notability. A book about him would.  A book with even a whole chapter about him would.  I would like to see page numbers in the recently added references.  That would show just how little the books cover him.  The facts being referenced do not indicate the sources show any notability for the guy. John from Idegon (talk) 09:45, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Scott (2009) has a two whole chapters about him: Rhyner's Dream (pages 7-17) and "Mike Rhyner The Old Gray Wolf" (pages 193-201). Antrocent (&#9835;&#9836;) 19:01, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
 * From the publishers own website: "BenBella publishes a range of nonfiction (and the very occasional fiction title) in a wide variety of categories and particularly likes quality nonfiction aimed at a niche market. - See more at: http://www.benbellabooks.com/about/#sthash.HuQwYNuD.dpuf. In other words, this is not a book aimed at the masses...it is as I have said all along, just another example of local publicity for a local radio personality.  If he truly had notability, so you think it would be such a struggle to find something worthy written on him?  Do you think if he were truly notable you would have to stoop to such stellar copy as "He is divorced.[11] They had children.[2]"? John from Idegon (talk) 19:48, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
 * First, you are moving the goal posts. I cited Scott (2009) there to meet your challenge of "A book with even a whole chapter about him would [show notability]". And, I do not think that criticizing my writing (yes, I admit I am a bad writer) is relevant to the question of notability. Antrocent (&#9835;&#9836;) 23:27, 17 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep Seems notable to me, with ample inline citations.--DThomsen8 (talk) 13:23, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep - Passes GNG from sources showing in the footnotes. Carrite (talk) 21:51, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Antrocent (&#9835;&#9836;) 03:41, 19 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep The ESPN thing and other coverage he has gotten, equals notability.  D r e a m Focus  05:13, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep. Appears to meet WP:GNG. Still active and still gets coverage. SW3 5DL (talk) 18:34, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
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