Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mike Sabath


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The result was   delete. Secret account 02:50, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Mike Sabath

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Non-notable musician. Has had some local coverage for his fundraising activities, but no actual note as a musician. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 22:04, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 22:07, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 22:07, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

I added another reference to a radio station that Mike Sabath was on. Although you may believe that he is not notable enough, I do as do thousands of his fans that attended Suny Purchase when Sabath performed there about one year ago. Plus, he is only getting bigger from here. So, if you would just allow this article to remain on Wikipedia, it would show much growth and appreciation to me and the rest of Mike Sabath's fans.--Musicreviewer98 (talk) 22:31, 26 August 2013 (UTC)Musicreviewer On Mike Sabath's Facebook page it notes that his new album "Two of Us" is releasing tomorrow, the 27th. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Musicreviewer98 (talk • contribs) 00:28, 27 August 2013 (UTC) Keep. After some research on this artist, it appears that he does seem to be quite a notable musician. He has won many awards, including the philanthropy award stated by Musicreviewer98, he already has a big following and he also has made an abundance of fantastic music, including the new album "Two of Us" that I confirmed is releasing tomorrow. At first glance he did seem non notable but after a little research, he definitely deserves a Wikipedia page. APPROVED--Mike Sabath (talk) 00:38, 27 August 2013 (UTC) — Maroonstudios (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Well, I wouldn't say that Mike Sabath is a non notable musician due to his previously released tracks and rumors of a soon to be released album. Not only that, this article should not be deleted because it also shows the philanthropy that this young talent has done. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Musicreviewer98 (talk • contribs) 22:11, 26 August 2013 (UTC)  — Musicreviewer98 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Very weak keep unless some heavyweight WP:RS is found. This version had probably just sufficient to scrape past BLPPROD, but it is borderline. He may be more notable as a fundraiser than a musician. More references will move my opinion increasingly towards a full keep. Fiddle   Faddle  22:16, 26 August 2013 (UTC) Changed my mind. Delete as SPAM. This article seems to be being used to promote this alleged musician and fundraiser, not to record anything notable.  Fiddle   Faddle  08:14, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. A trivial amount of very local coverage falls well short of notable. Award is not major. Philanthropy is not inherently notable. Previously releasing tracks is not enough for WP:BAND. Rumours are not good enough. duffbeerforme (talk) 00:23, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. Fails WP:NMUSIC - coverage in reliable sources amounts to no more than trivial mentions like this, no verifiable evidence of being signed to a major label, no evidence of chart placing. As for the claims that his album is being released today - to cut a long story short, unless you can pick up that album today in any Walmart store of your choice, it's probably not notable enough. Justin Bieber didn't get his notability from just using Facebook and Twitter. Ritchie333  (talk)  (cont)   11:54, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Here is a testimonial written by one of Mike's producers: Mike Sabath is pure talent. His new album "Two of Us"  is the record of a young superstar in the making.  Having the pleasure of working with Mike on other material, I can tell you that musicality is a rush to witness and thrill to collaborate with.  Each of his wholly original songs on the new album shows a different facet of his style with a nuance beyond his years.  I can't say enough good things about him" Why isn't that worthy enough to allow this musician to have a Wikipedia page. It's not whether he sells his music in Walmart or on iTunes. It's that he is a great musician, one who does good for others. That is something that he should be noted for, deserving a Wiki page.--Musicreviewer98 (talk) 19:01, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment Show us that in a reliable source, and add it to the article as a citation and it might help. In its current form it is useless and meaningless. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a place to advertise artistes. Fiddle   Faddle  20:00, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Wikipedians are a pretty diverse bunch, and what one person likes, another person might detest. I decided to wake up this morning to the dulcet tones of Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together in a Cave and Grooving with a Pict. I'm odd like that. Doesn't mean that Ummagumma is the most notable album in the history of recorded music. Ritchie333  (talk)  (cont)   08:51, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

I believe that he is quite notable for his awards, his high sales, his appearance in Train's VH1 "Christmas in Seabright" special, and many other great achievements. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Musicreviewer98 (talk • contribs) 14:52, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment No one is arguing whether or not Sabath is a good musician, just whether he is a notable musician. Many very talented musicians toil away in obscurity all of their careers, while many musicians of questionable talent (or no talent at all) (names withheld to protect the untalented) reach superstar status.  All of Musicreviewer's arguments cannot demonstrate that Sabath is notable.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 20:01, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Do you have any reliable sources to back any of that up? If your uncited claim of "high sales" was true, his album would appear on List of best-selling albums, but it doesn't. Ritchie333  (talk)  (cont)   15:33, 28 August 2013 (UTC)


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