Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mike Salzano


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The result was delete. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  10:02, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Mike Salzano

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Non-notable American football offensive lineman who never played a game in the NFL. He fails all four points of WP:NCOLLATH and he fails WP:NGRIDIRON (didn't play in a professional league). Thus, his notability must rely on WP:GNG. All of the sources are general transactions or have brief mentions of Salzano. There is no significant coverage within reliable sources to establish notability. « Gonzo fan2007  (talk)  @ 21:41, 22 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 22:55, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of North Carolina-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 22:56, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. SportingFlyer  T · C  23:03, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

Although he didn't play one game of professional football, I consider that he has merits as an important college player:
 * 1) Being selected as a two-time first-team in an important conference like the Atlantic Coast Conference. Which is rare.
 * 2) Being a four-year starter in college which is rare.
 * 3) Being an All-American.
 * 4) Additional to these points, he has one of the longest track records (shot put) in the history of the state of North Carolina. He also set the shot put record in the University of North Carolina.Tecmo (talk) 22:27, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Just to clarify, almost all of your points have corollaries:
 * All-ACC is a small designation bestowed on many players. It's not rare at all. At the time there were only 8 schools in the ACC. This means he beat out at best, 15 other offensive lineman for this designation.
 * A four-year starter is not rare, especially for offensive linemen. We are not talking about a QB or RB here.
 * He was third-team all-American, again not a rare feat in college sports, especially for offensive linemen.
 * The first point was when he was in high school, so not applicable to his college exploits. It also was a record just for 4-A schools, not for the entire state. Setting school records also does not provide notability. « Gonzo fan2007   (talk)  @ 22:38, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
 * 1) from 1953 to 1998 (the only information I have and also put as a reference in the article), there have been less than 30 players in the University of North Carolina to be at least two-time first-team All-ACC.
 * 2) from 1953 to 1998 (the only information I have and also put as a reference in the article), there have been less than 160 players in the University of North Carolina to be named All-American at least once.
 * 3) four-year starters are rare even on the offensive line because it takes durability and skills.Tecmo (talk) 23:24, 22 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete run of the mill collegian, fails WP:NGRIDIRON, fails WP:GNG. Youth sports articles (pre-college) do not count towards notability, either, except in rare circumstances not met here. SportingFlyer  T · C  23:03, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Had he been a unanimous first-team All-American it would be a different story, but his achievements as a whole don't pass WP:NGRIDIRON. Best, GPL93 (talk) 15:16, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment. Offensive linemen rarely get in-depth coverage seen with players at skill positions. Just taking an initial look. My initial search didn't turn up much here. E.g., "Salzano Set To Challenge Heroes". Just a quick look, though, so reserving judgment. Cbl62 (talk) 15:36, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:NGRIDIRON....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 16:02, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails to meet either WP:NGRIDIRON or WP:GNG. There's a lack of significant coverage to show notability. Papaursa (talk) 16:38, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as violation of WP:NGRIDIRON, per GPL93. James-the-Charizard (talk) 01:41, 26 March 2019 (UTC)


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