Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mike Tisdale


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The result was   delete. Kevin (talk) 02:01, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Mike Tisdale

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Fails WP:ATHLETE. Still in school, so not playing professionally. Crotchety Old Man (talk) 20:20, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - he is competing at the highest level of amatuer basketball in the United States. Dincher (talk) 20:34, 6 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete. Falls afoul of WP:ATHLETE. -- Dennis The Tiger   (Rawr and stuff) 22:33, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete: Fails WP:ATHLETE. Joe Chill (talk) 02:16, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Athletes-related deletion discussions.  -- Joe Chill (talk) 02:16, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Basketball-related deletion discussions.  -- Joe Chill (talk) 02:16, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep NCAA is the highest level of amateur basketball for the US, per WP:ATHLETE. Doc Quintana (talk) 23:10, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * So every NCAA athlete is deserving of a Wikipedia page? Crotchety Old Man (talk) 23:15, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:00, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Delete Fails WP:ATHLETE. Highest amateur competition in basketball would at the very least by an international competition such as the Olympics.  Grsz 11  04:31, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The Olympics don't count, since pretty much every country now sends pro players. The same is true of the major FIBA competitions. Ultimately, NCAA Division 1 is the highest level of amateur competition for American basketball players. (That said, I don't fully agree with WP:ATHLETE anyway. If interpreted literally, we'd be stuck with thousands of microstubs. But if you're going to cite WP:ATHLETE, you should cite it properly.) Zagalejo^^^ 07:14, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete, WP:ATHLETE clearly calls for the highest amateur level of a sport, not just the highest level in one particular country. --Stormie (talk) 04:53, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Tisdale is a respectable contributor for a major program, and has been the primary subject of several news articles:, , etc. I think WP:ATHLETE is a poor metric for evaluating American college players, so I'm just going to ignore it and go with my gut. Zagalejo^^^ 07:14, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete I appreciate that sources were located, but these are from the newspapers in Bloomington, Illinois, and Springfield, Illinois, both of which have reporters assigned to cover the Illini games. WP:ATHLETE doesn't bar Tisdale from having an article, and it doesn't give him a free pass either.  The concept, of every player for every NCAA Division I team getting his own page, has been raised before, and rejected for obvious reasons.  For those persons who want to write about Tisdale, there's a page called 2009-10 Illinois Fighting Illini men's basketball team that serves that purpose.  Mandsford (talk) 13:23, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.