Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mike lorek fan club


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was: Speedy delete under CSD G4 by Zoe. --Aurochs (Talk | Block)

Mike lorek fan club
Non-notable organization devoted to a non-notable person. Delete. --Aurochs (Talk | Block)
 * Keep Do you have any valid arguments to back that up?Ognit Ice 04:53, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Instead, why don't you prove to me why this "Mike Lorek" is notable? --Aurochs (Talk | Block)
 * Never claimed he was notable, its the organization that is notable. This organization has been recognized in the community countless times and contributes to local charities.  This is an organization that brings the community together by hosting car shows and local wrestling events.  They are a positive influence in the community, and have been for the past six years.  Whats not notable about that?Ognit Ice 05:08, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
 * So it's notable in it's community. How is it notable in the world at large? --Aurochs (Talk | Block)
 * Doesn't have to be a worldwide organization, even though it is expanding. Theres countless businesses and groups on Wikipedia that don't have a global presence.  The organization exists and is verifiable.  There are no "organization inclusion guidelines" in Wikipedia that state an organization needs a global presence.Ognit Ice 05:18, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Presence doesn't really matter; it's whether or not an organization is notable outside its presence that counts. Nobody outside of the vicinity of Johnstown, PA would know or care about the Mike Lorek Fan Club; ergo, it is not notable. --Aurochs (Talk | Block)
 * Well considering i'm from Pittsburgh, I have to disagree with you. Thats a bold statement to make about an organization you obviously know nothing about.  If other communities had groups like the Mike Lorek Fan Club the world would be a much better place.  Other people wanting to start an organization to benefit there community could follow the blue print set up by this organization.  No where does it state that the organization has to be known in France to be worthy of Wikipedia.Ognit Ice 05:30, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
 * You're gonna have to do a lot better than that to convince me. --Aurochs (Talk | Block)
 * Delete, nn, silly. User:Zoe|(talk) 05:23, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

Comments

 * Hey, guess what I found. Previously deleted page means that this can now be speedied under CSD G4. I'm gonna add the tag now. --Aurochs (Talk | Block)
 * Thanks, Aurochs, I had thought I'd seen this before in the Recent Changes page. Now speedied.  User:Zoe|(talk) 05:40, 3 December 2005 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.