Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mikiko Watanabe


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The result was delete. Tone 14:07, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Mikiko Watanabe

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It’s a stub and there isn’t a lot of information on this particular person. Of course, I don’t mean to be disrespectful. HurricaneGeek2002 (talk) 22:56, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
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 * Strong Delete - Of course it is very sad that this person died, but sentiment cannot and is not be the basis for retaining an article. The truth is that this article was created only because of the tragedy at the Kyoto animation studio, and therefore fails WP:NOTNEWS and WP:ONEEVENT, the lodestars of the notability policy for people who are becoming notorious solely because of one event. Michepman (talk) 01:26, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - This person is not notable outside of this one event, I was thinking of a redirect but that would run into WP:MEMORIAL. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 02:01, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Draft or Keep - turn this into an draft and try to improve it. BabbaQ (talk) 15:29, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Kyoto Animation. This is probably our best-case scenario. -BRAINULATOR9 (TALK) 21:04, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete: while I initially considered a redirect vote, I agree with Knowledgekid87's concerns regarding WP:MEMORIAL, and I think deletion would be the better option. Aoba47 (talk) 18:36, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Neutral maybe Miss Watanabe is notable, hints for notability are given. --Goroth (talk) 00:47, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep or do something sensible, she was an art director as seen here — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a02:a458:2f92:1:5455:a519:4f45:2003 (talk • contribs) 22:54, August 6, 2019 (UTC)
 * Just because she was a art director does not mean she’s notable. By that logic, every art director you see in movie/tv show credits would have their own page. We can’t redirect the page because it would fall under WP:MEMORIAL. Also, please sign your statements, thank you. HurricaneGeek2002 (talk) 00:00, 7 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Draft or Delete - As it stands right now, there are not enough different sources to have this as an article on its own, but perhaps drafting it to see if more sources can be found to not let this article be too stubby would give it chances. Shindo Nana talk? 12:17, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep - Mikiko Watanabe was a noteworthy member of Kyoto Animation and served as one of the studio's main staff on the art direction side (overseeing all non-character art in her productions). In animation, the art director is a senior/supervisory role equivalent to animation director or character designer (which receive their own pages without questions of notability). On an animation production, she would have been one of the top four artists on the project (director, character designer, chief animation director, art director). Additionally, as Watanabe was the art director for 7 productions, she was a prolific creator and one of the major staff on all these projects. She also had a long career with the company as a background artist (first step to becoming an art director) of more than 10 years. This article needs more sourcing and explanation of her role to be suitable, but the question of notability is answered by her extensively production history and importance to the company. Simply because other equivalently-important creatives who hold her job title in other companies/productions haven't been properly represented in Wikipedia doesn't mean she should be removed. LainEverliving LainEverloving (talk) 15:45, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep sources exist demonstrating notability in her role as an anime film art director. Polyamorph (talk) 13:48, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
 * There’s no pictures of her and besides the stuff she worked on, little to no info on her. We can’t include somebody in a article just because they worked on something or two. I also don’t see any notability at all. HurricaneGeek2002 (talk) 16:14, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
 * You think a photo is a requirement for inclusion? Being a stub is also not reason for deletion. Polyamorph (talk) 16:55, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Frankly, it is a reason for it to be deleted. There no point of the subject having its own page when there’s not much info on the subject. How can she be notable if there’s not much info on her? HurricaneGeek2002 (talk) 19:49, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Stubs are articles in need of expansion, not deletion. There are many sources that state this individual's substantial contributions (as art director) of some significant animated films. Per the notability of people guidelines, a person is notable if they have ...created, or played a major role in co-creating, a significant or well-known work, or collective body of work. This work has been the subject of an independent book or feature-length movie, or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews.. Sources are sparse but they do exist, more reviews can be found by searching in Japanese. The recent coverage (despite WP:NOTNEWS) does provide reliably sourced biographical information. I believe they are sufficiently notable. Polyamorph (talk) 21:35, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment: A keep vote seems to have been made in the middle of the above conversation. FoxyGrampa75 (talk) 18:02, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Neutral. There’s also the matter of WP:NOPAGE. FoxyGrampa75 (talk) 18:02, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep: It's an article in need of expansion. Further, it is conspicuous to me that a man with similar credentials, Futoshi Nishiya, whose article was created due to the same event, is not nominated for deletion. lethargilistic (talk) 21:44, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   08:59, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. No convincing claim of notability and not notable per se. Agricola44 (talk) 17:22, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete I see no proof from any of the keep votes that the article's notable, just vague claims that it is. Obviously it's a terrible tragedy, but WP:NOTMEMORIAL.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 18:27, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - not notable in herself, only notable because of the tragedy, in which 35 people were killed - the article Kyoto Animation arson attack mentions her among the dead, there is no need for a stand-alone article - Epinoia (talk) 00:49, 17 August 2019 (UTC)


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