Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mikolaj Oledzki


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The result was delete. czar 01:52, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

Mikolaj Oledzki

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Contested prod. Player fails WP:RLN as has not played in a World Cup or a fully professional club Rugby league competition. Mattlore (talk) 21:00, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not all sportspeople are notable. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here  21:43, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep - played for the Bradford Bulls at the weekend.Theanonymousentry (talk) 12:59, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep Per . Now satisfies WP:RLN. Smartyllama (talk) 15:04, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment: He still fails WP:RLN, as he has not played in a fully professional competition as specified there. Mattlore (talk) 19:49, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
 * At least 10 current members of the Bradford Bulls squad with articles fail WP:RLN due to having only played in the Championship. IMO it may be necessary to review the WP:RLN as things are a lot less clear cut with the new structure in Super League. 86.3.174.49 (talk) 23:02, 8 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete because as far as I can tell, he currently fails RLN. He may have played for Poland however, and that *could* allow him to pass RLN depending on the importance of the fixture. So if a source can be provided to show that this is the case, I'd switch to keep. Craig (talk) 22:26, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
 * As far as I'm aware, Poland has never played in the Four Nations, European Cup or World Cup. Mattlore (talk) 22:31, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I would personally consider a WC qualifier to be notable enough. If it's not by RLN standards, it should be IMHO. Also, GNG can also trump RLN in some cases. There's no point getting too much into this now though as I doubt this kid has played any matches for Poland yet anyway. Craig (talk) 22:35, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Poland have also not yet played in a WC qualifier, and you're right that this kid hasn't yet played for Poland so it's a moot point.86.3.174.49 (talk) 23:02, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kurykh (talk) 22:47, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete Sportsperson has some coverage in local media (and Sky) but is this significant enough? Lack of awards, etc....  Nicnote  •  ask me a question  •  contributions  21:57, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Poland-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 06:21, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 06:21, 19 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete does not meet our notability guidelines for rugby players.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:37, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Rugby is a different sport.Fleets (talk) 13:01, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Actually, there hasn't been a sport called just "Rugby" for a very long time. There's two sports with "Rugby" in their names, Rugby League and Rugby Union, but neither holds the exclusive rights to name "Rugby". Whether indevidual supporters call either sport just "Rugby" tends to determine where you're from. For example, in Northern England, "I'm off to watch the Rugby" almost always means you're going to watch Rugby League. In Southern England, the same term would mean you're off to watch Rugby Union. I guess my point here is that it can be very confusing to people unfamiliar with either sport. – skemcraig⊗ 13:55, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Well it has fallen into common usage and shortened from rugby union, not to my liking but that's how it seems. The Australians are more definitive in their usage of the word, but as you say rugby is a more than acceptable term to describe the 13 a-side code. A side point to add further confusion would be that if he did play rugby union, he would qualify by playing in the second-tier of English Rugby Union.Fleets (talk) 14:04, 22 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete Fails WP:RLN and WP:GNG. Re-create if and when he plays in the Super League. J Mo 101 (talk) 22:45, 22 February 2017 (UTC)


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