Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Milin Dokthian (2nd nomination)


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The result was no consensus. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 18:14, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

Milin Dokthian
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Still the same issues: The subject has no personal work outside the band; no major roles in films, tv shows, etc; no significant contribution in any entertainment field; and no established notability that warrants a stand-alone article; thus her article should either be deleted or redirected to List of BNK48 members according to WP:MUSICBIO. --Miwako Sato (talk) 05:40, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Milin has participated in the film "Where We Belong" as Pahn. You can check out the photo gallery of the movie containing images of her in the movie and at the press release on IMDb (I've already put that on the article page as well) . Also, there is another movie waiting to release next year as well. And from what we know, her role is not insignificant at all. This falls under WP:ARTIST and she also has quite a number of fans, as you can see from the number of her followers on social media accounts such as Instagram and Facebook. In addition, she is a lone brand ambassador of Buriram United and has got a lot of attention from the media because she is not just first brand ambassador of the team but also of any team in the league, as I've cited news, interviews, and articles from various news agencies and the club's website itself in the article. If you need any Thai translation of the news/article, feel free to send me the link to that news/article and I can translate it for you. SamakarN1820 (talk) 05:57, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment:
 * All the films were created by her own band, in which she co-starred with her fellow members of the band, and all of her roles are merely supporting, and none of the roles have gained any significant coverage in the media, have been nominated for an award, etc.
 * Having many of followers on social media accounts is nothing. A person does not gain an article in an encyclopedia just because the person's social media accounts are followed by many people. Moreover, the term "many" may be an exaggeration in her case, because she only has 524k followers on her IG account and 266k on her FB account.
 * Also, the role as a Buriram football club ambassador was obtained on account of her being a member of BNK48, not because of her being her.
 * This is unlike her fellow member Cherprang Areekul, who can have a separate article on Wikipedia because of significant and independent roles outside the band as described in the article, amongst other reasons.
 * So, her article should be deleted or redirected to the article List of BNK48 members in accordance with WP:MUSICBIO.
 * --Miwako Sato (talk) 06:13, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
 *  Keep - Comment: The third point is not entirely true though. The club's vice marketing director has once mentioned that "We wanted to make a collaboration between BNK48 and the club, but not with other members, just Namneung only" (please check out the interview video on Youtube, search for "Bureview บุรีวิว EP.4 : Buriram United Spark ร่วมงานจับมือให้กำลังใจ "น้องน้ำหนึ่ง BNK48"" since I couldn't link YouTube links here, and the interview part starts from 4:45). So the reason she was selected isn't just that she is a member of the group, right? Or else the team would have 6 or 16 members representing the team now, like other brands that hire BNK48 members as their presenters/ambassadors. Moreover, in WP:ENT, point number 2: "Has a large fan base or a significant "cult" following." - how large is this anyway? There is a fanbase group for Namneung called "Milinland" as well (watch the same video a bit further towards the end and you'll see the same person mentioning about "Milin family", which refers to the very same group of fan. If you said that she has only 524k followers on her IG account and 266k likes on her FB account, how large should this be to satisfy the standards? I need you to make a clarification on this. SamakarN1820 (talk) 15:18, 26 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 08:50, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Thailand-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 08:50, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, RL0919 (talk) 14:39, 30 November 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Barkeep49 (talk) 03:23, 8 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. ミラP 00:47, 10 December 2019 (UTC)


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