Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Miljulneer


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The result was   delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 04:02, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Miljulneer

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I cannot find independent and reliable evidence that this is an actual mythological figure. Yngvadottir (talk) 17:15, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. I was just in the process of afd'ing this article when Yngvadottir beat me to it. Unreferenced article with multiples issues since February 2011. I can find no mention of "Miljulneer" on Google Books, and no reliable source for it elsewhere. There is possibly a transliteration problem, but I have not been able to find any mention the "Persian Thor" under any similar name. BabelStone (talk) 17:20, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Iran-related deletion discussions. Yngvadottir (talk) 17:31, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Religion-related deletion discussions. Yngvadottir (talk) 17:36, 29 December 2013 (UTC)


 * The name turns up nothing, and without any indication of which religion's angel this is is supposed to be it is impossible to determine what this might be a mistake for, if it isn't simply an invention of the article creator. Without sources or any useful context there is simply no way to fix this article.  The Archangel Michael leads the army of God the War in Heaven, anyway.  Of course "Persian" isn't necessarily Christianity, or even probably.  Zoroastrianism has angels, for example.  Uncle G (talk) 21:52, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment: Nothing except sites dependent on Wikipedia and something gamesy. But I do think it's being presented as Zoroastrian. However ... the most plausible etymology is an attempt to pronounce Mjọllnir. Yngvadottir (talk) 21:58, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
 * A search in Google Books shows the word is mentioned in (no preview). Vis and Rāmin is a first century AD Persian story. This could be a reference to an Iranian equivalent of Thor, hence the similarity to Mjölnir. The reference to dissident groups seems plausible. I doubt it is a hoax. But without sources or the Farsi form of the word it is unverifiable. Aymatth2 (talk) 17:26, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I got the same hit in my search for book sources, but it appears to be a false positive: Google keeps trying to modify the search to Miljoner or Mjölnir. I also searched for Miljulnir, by the way. But I still cannot get anything to come up except some game site. Do please keep looking, though! Yngvadottir (talk) 20:13, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Google naturally suggest the more common words "Miljoner" and "Mjölnir", but that does not mean anything. If Google says "Miljulneer" (in quotes) is found in the book, I trust it is. Not that it helps, since the page is not visible. I see a Pakistani user on a wargame site called "miljulneer", and Urdu is influenced by Persian, but I think it may be stretching it just a bit to say that this verifies the article. I tried looking for Aryan war gods. There seem to be rather a lot of them, but none with names like this. I give up. Aymatth2 (talk) 23:32, 11 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Lankiveil (speak to me) 10:32, 8 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete - fails WP:V. Bearian (talk) 19:29, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
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