Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Millie Midwinter-Lean


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The result was   delete. Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:12, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Millie Midwinter-Lean

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Actress that simply does not meet WP:BIO. Her only credited roles are a part in a five minute trailer of a film that has yet to be completed and a small part in an independent horror film. The only media coverage I could find is this BBC report on the five minute trailer but it's too superficial to be of much use. Pichpich (talk) 12:15, 25 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment She has other credits listed on IMDb and other media coverage   Lemonpopsicle(talk)
 * The first is essentially a shortened version of the BBC report and the second only mentions her name. And we must be looking at different IMDb page: her film career consists of a feature film and a trailer for a film that may or may not turn out to be a feature film. It seems she also appeared once on BBC Breakfast (though it's unclear why) and once on a local news show when she was seven years old. I wish her all the best but she currently doesn't meet the notability threshold. Pichpich (talk) 14:15, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions.  — &mdash; alf.laylah.wa.laylah (talk) 14:42, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
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 * Comment Performances in theatres & certainly in commercials aren't listed on IMDb at all, neither are all films. So although an individual may only have certain credits shown they may indeed have many more that will not be listed. There's more media coverage here for the full version of the trailer. IMDb is the only database that allows actors to list their credits and as I have already stated it does not allow everything. This particular person has many more credits albeit, theatrical, viral, commercial, corporate & film/TV than what can be shown on an IMDb link.Lemonpopsicle(talk) —Preceding undated comment added 15:03, 25 September 2011 (UTC).
 * That last link you provided is about the trailer but it doesn't even mention the actress' name and that's the problem in a nutshell. Yes she may have had parts in amateur films, corporate films, online shorts or commercials, she may have had uncredited roles in major films or parts in small theatrical productions and perhaps that makes her an excellent actress. It does not however make her a notable actress in the very specific sense of the term used on Wikipedia. Pichpich (talk) 15:24, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * So it does not matter how many credits or how much experience an individual has Wikipedia merely relies on how many times the name is mentioned in the media? Now I get it, so you could be in just one film but if you have several reviews listing how wonderful/rubbish your performance is you have more chance of making it onto Wikipedia than someone who has several credits without reviews? Also bear in mind that if people are gleaning their information off IMDb, television credits are not listed until the programme has been aired, sometimes a year after filming has finished! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lemonpopsicle (talk • contribs) 16:52, 25 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - Does not meet WP:NACTOR or WP:GNG. To respond to the above, it indeed does not matter how many credits, experience or wonderful performances an actor may have under their belt if they haven't "received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject" ŞůṜīΣĻ ¹98¹ Speak 17:27, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 *  Delete. When evaluating notability of this subject, consideration is made in accordance with topical notability guidelines for actors. The key points we review include 1. Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions; 2. Has a large fan base or a significant "cult" following. and 3. Has made unique, prolific or innovative contributions to a field of entertainment. The subject is presumed notable if s/he meets one of these topical criteria. Presumption and claims of significance, importance, and notability must then be confirmed through significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Unfortunately, there is nothing presented in the article that indicates that the subject meets either the topical or general notability guidelines. Best regards, Cind.   amuse  (Cindy) 18:29, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete without prejudice for now per WP:TOOSOON. Currently her short career fails WP:ENT and the lack of wider coverage fails WP:GNG. I will note the BBC article is decent enough... but just the one article does not a notability create. We might consider a return of this article when her career expands and she gets coverage, but not just yet.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 23:05, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
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