Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Minas Morgul


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 00:06, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Minas Morgul

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The article apparently fails WP:GNG because the third party works cited are too in universe. If this is the case this article has no reason to exist. GimliDotNet ( Speak to me, Stuff I've done )  17:24, 7 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Merge or Delete: It may be possible to preserve some of the content of this article in more all-encompassing articles, but I don't believe the sources currently presented establish that the subject is significant in its own right. If the sources do include discussion of the subject's significance out-of-universe, the article should be retooled to discuss that. In any case, as evidenced at the article's talk page, I would be happy to see the article improved to dispell my concerns. DonIago (talk) 17:29, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Dab page: This title apparently also refers to a LotR song, as well as an album. Some of the content could be merged to one of a host of LotR articles, but most likely should be sent to an appropriate Wikia wiki. At any rate, this article is very crufty, and is unlikely to be otherwise. Therefore, the article does not belong. —/M endaliv /2¢/Δ's/ 17:54, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 03:37, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 03:37, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Science fiction-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 13:43, 9 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep. Seems notable enough to me. A significant site within one of the most influential franchises in the history of fantasy literature. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:43, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger One ping only 08:29, 16 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep The topic is notable being covered in detail in numerous sources such as Tolkien: The Illustrated Encyclopaedia and The Complete Guide to Middle-Earth. Andrew (talk) 10:32, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Those are exactly the kinds of sources that I don't think demonstrate notability. I'd be more interested in seeing sources which aren't already dedicated to discussing Middle Earth-related material. DonIago (talk) 12:51, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
 * That may make it an important topic in the Tolkien universe (and thus almost surely there should be a mention somewhere, and it should probably have an article on a Wikia wiki), but outside of the fiction, is there really anything? —/M endaliv /2¢/Δ's/ 13:45, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.