Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Minh Quân Phan


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete.  MBisanz  talk 11:43, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

Minh Quân Phan

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Extensive PROD driveby-removed by the one IP focusing only with this one article and, although the IP is from Brooklyn, New York, the contributions suggests there's certainly some COI in either the subject himself or other people connected, the other account involved with this also suggests something else than meets the eye; none of this suggests any actual independent notability and substance and there have been absolutely no comments or explanations to at least show understanding of these concerns. SwisterTwister  talk  22:55, 19 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi there, I'm one of Minh's fan, also I have met him several times for his concert. Sometimes, I did discuss with him and also some of people who are agree to developing this article. I put my work hard to find any details about his music, life also try to find some reliable sources in the Internet. I know how Wikipedia work and how to create an article for a "living person" also what sources that meet Wikipedia requirement. In additional, I don't know what happen with the IP that you are talking about if I live in the same country, city with the artist. If people live in Germany, and edit or create an article of Beethoven, is doesn't mean they are Beethoven; family?. Plus, the artist do have his internet sources but in Vietnamese magazines, news, but is not in English language. That why I don't put into the article; like I said, we are still developing this article with more reliable sources as much as possible. Thank you! 47.17.226.94 (talk) 01:11, 20 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Hello all Wikipedians. First of all, I wish you have a wonderful day. I'm the one who create this page "Minh Quân Phan", thanks to everyone who edited this page and help my work. Not same as the "user IP", I'm a new folk in Wikipedia but before I created this page, I have already "search" and "find" Wikipedia's policies. I do understand that I will make many mistakes in this article and another too, but I'm still learning and improve my skill and make Wikipedia is a great place to everyone. About my opinion on this subject, "Minh Quân Phan" is a young musician and also a little notability and just have only few sources in the Internet but rather than not. I maybe agree with the folks who has disagree that Minh should have not his Wikipedia page at this time. But same idea with the "IP user", I'm still develop in article. In conclusion, there are already 2 articles (sources) in English that wrote about the subject, but if the Wikipedia admin and mod do want remove this article anyway, there is no problem for me. But I do want the admin will reconsideration give me and Minh's fans to develop his page. P/s: Sorry about my English, this is not my first language. One again, I really thanks to everybody who here and help my work as well as making the Wikipedia is a beautiful place for everyone. Hiepmusic (talk) 01:58, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete non-notable pianist.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:50, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Vietnam-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 01:39, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 01:39, 22 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep Notable pianist, the article have sources. Using keywords "Minh Quan Phan". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.51.187.218 (talk) 13:07, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: The above IP also tried to remove the AfD template from the article. -- Finngall  talk  13:59, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: Any editor without a conflict of interest who sees a tag, but does not see the purported problem with the article and does not see any detailed complaint on the talk page, may remove the tag. 65.51.187.218 (talk) 14:04, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment This applies to maintenance tags in general, but an AfD template must remain in place until the discussion has been closed. -- Finngall  talk  14:14, 24 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep Meets central criteria of WP:Music 184.75.31.190 (talk) 14:29, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete I'm willing to be persuaded otherwise if there are some decent Vietnamese sources available, but as the article stands now the provided sources are not reliable and I found nothing better found in English to offer improvements. Article creator and all IPs who have edited either the article or this discussion have few or no other edits outside of this topic and none have provided a policy-based reason for their keep !votes. -- Finngall   talk  15:31, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment As noted above, article author also created a similar article with similar sources on vi.wiki, which has also received several edits from 47.17.226.94. It's not up for deletion there yet, but based on a machine translation of that article's talk page, it doesn't sound like they're impressed with the sourcing over there, either. -- Finngall   talk  20:23, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

47.17.226.94 (talk) 20:49, 30 October 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete and close this Afd as such. I am generally particular not to stereotype IP comments or !votes while closing Afds, but this here is pure drive-by !voting not based on our N guidelines or V policies. Lourdes  03:22, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep I just adding three independent reliable sources on this page.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 22:44, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment All three are press releases. And who in heavens is "Lisa-Q" mentioned in two of the press releases? One quick query from . Why was this Afd re-listed? Thanks. Lourdes  05:17, 31 October 2016 (UTC)