Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Minigames of Final Fantasy


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy redirect to Recurring elements in the Final Fantasy series. SNOW restoration of redirect to preserve attribution history. I've never heard of this RfD norm (re: undoing a bold redirect to have a hearing at AfD) but based on the response, I recommend reconsidering the practice. czar 22:55, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

Minigames of Final Fantasy

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Delete per WP:NOTGAMEGUIDE, the minigames are not independently notable. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 16:59, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 16:59, 28 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete - Unnecessary spinout, as the mini-games are not independently notable, and with the good state that most Final Fantasy game articles are in (many GA/FA level), they're already better covered more appropriately at the respective articles - there’s realistically nothing to merge. Sergecross73   msg me  17:08, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Speed close yet another pointless restore from redirect and send to AFD At Talk:Minigames_of_Final_Fantasy consensus was to merge it over, and the article redirected in October 2011.   D r e a m Focus  17:44, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Speedy close/Delete - what was the point of un-redirecting an article that was merged 8 years ago just to send it to AfD? An RfD would have been more direct. -- Pres N  23:44, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
 * RfD frowns upon articles that were boldly redirected with a history being deleted there, their policy is to send it to AfD no matter how old it is.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 04:48, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect (aka SPEEDY KEEP). Prior to being a redirect it was an article which was merged. These diffs show that the page&history must be retained for copyright attribution reasons. If Gameplay of Final Fantasy doesn't already attribute the merge from Minigames of Final Fantasy then such attribution needs to be added. Alsee (talk) 05:02, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
 * This article is about minigames, not gameplay in general. That would be incorrect.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 17:19, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
 * ZXCVBNM if you had checked the diffs I provided, you would see I was correct. On 13 October 2011, user:PresN copied content from Minigames of Final Fantasy, pasted it into Gameplay of Final Fantasy, and changed the minigames article into a redirect. That makes it a copyright matter, and we are required to retain the page-history. That means we are required to retain the page in some form. The most reasonable way to retain the page is as a redirect. Alsee (talk) 09:59, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Restore Redirect - As in the other similar AFDs created by the nominator, there was little reason to restore these to articles to send them to AFD. Restoring them all back to Redirects, as they had been for years, is the obvious answer. Rorshacma (talk) 16:06, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Speedy close and restore redirect per WP:CHEAP, WP:DEADHORSE and who knows what else. No valid rationale has been provided on why the redirect should be deleted (and no, preventing future recreation is not a valid reason when the edit history shows only one attempt of such happening). I'm not one to assume bad faith, but I do consider it to be lying through omission how the nominator failed to acknowledge in his statement tgat the article has been a redirect for eight years, until he himself recreated it and nominated it for deletion(!?). This isn't what AfD is for, and it feels like WP:GAMING to me.  Satellizer el Bridget (Talk)  00:40, 31 July 2019 (UTC)


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