Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mirage (British band)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Camel (band). Daniel (talk) 08:11, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Mirage (British band)

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I can't find any significant coverage of this band in RS Pipsally (talk) 07:41, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 08:48, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 08:48, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Weak keep or merge into Camel: the article is patchy and could do with some clean-up. There's a mix of references. Grimsby Telegraph and MTV News are reliable. There's some primary sourcing that may be appropriate to use, but doesn't demonstrate notability. There's stuff like Expose Online, which is a reliable source within progressive rock music journalism. If the AfD decision is to delete, there is material here that could be moved to Camel (band). Bondegezou (talk) 09:01, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 06:14, 18 July 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 07:40, 25 July 2021 (UTC) While the above is all fair comment, I got to the page by looking for Caravan-related music on YouTube, coming across their released album and wanting to know who they were, and finding the link from Mirage (disambiguation). The history of the Canterbury scene is littered with various collections of the same musicians operating under different names in different years, and keeping track of them all is virtually impossible; one continually finds obscure references to short-lived groupings one's not heard of, and one wants to know a bit more. Whatever the eventual fate of this page, it's important to make it simple to locate the information, ie it would have to be in a paragraph specifically linked to by the disambiguation page at least. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MichaelHolmans (talk • contribs) 27 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge selectively into Camel (band) - This is an odd story within the history of Camel, but as an entity in its own right, Mirage accomplished nothing except a couple of unnoticed live albums. However, the story of a shyster trying to set up a fraudulent Camel reunion, then calling it something else and leaving legal devastation in his wake, is relevant to Camel's history. It can be described at their article, but it is unnecessary to go into so much detail. ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (TALK&#124;CONTRIBS) 13:54, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Just note that for Wikipedia's purposes, all of that information still needs to be verifiable from reliable sources, and not just fan trivia. ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (TALK&#124;CONTRIBS) 13:30, 27 July 2021 (UTC)


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