Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mircea Florin Şandru


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The result was   delete. v/r - TP 21:33, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Mircea Florin Şandru

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No verifiable sources establish notability. There's a [http://www.romlit.ro/ion_budai_deleanu_alturi_de_petre_ghelmez.. deliciously negative review] of his poetry, but little more substantive. Biruitorul Talk 01:39, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete There's also apparently a better review of his work in a local magazine, but the more notable source who quotes it simply notes that MFS is not really a talented poet. Sorry. Dahn (talk) 11:26, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
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 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   20:41, 21 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Biruitorul, you can find verifiable sources here:


 * 1. Laurenţiu Ulici, „Literatura română contemporană, I – promoţia ‘70“, Eminescu Publishing House, 1995
 * 2. Marian Popa, „Istoria literaturii române de azi pe mâine“, Publishing House of the Foundation "Luceafărul", 2001
 * 3. Mircea Zaciu, Marian Papahagi, Aurel Sasu (coordonators), „Dicţionarul scriitorilor români“, vol. IV, Albatros Publishing House, 2002
 * 4. Aurel Sasu, „Dicţionarul biografic al literaturii române“, Paralela 45 Publishing House, 2006
 * 5. Eugen Simion (coodonator), „Dicţionarul general al literaturii române, literele S/T“, edited by the Romanian Academy, Univers Enciclopedic Publishing House, 2007
 * So, Wikipedia articles should not be interpreted with axiological criteria (he is a good writer or not - that is a problem of literary critics, not ours, right?). Only criteria that is valid on Wikipedia is notability and for that, please see the books from above. --FeodorBezuhov (talk) 18:12, 24 March 2012 (UTC)


 * FeodorBezuhov, I don't doubt the truth of what you say, but a blind bibliography isn't that meaningful. In the Wikipedia of 2012 (as opposed to that of, say, 2005), sources are cited. Information drawn from a particular source, even one edited by the Romanian Academy, is cited as coming from that source, together with the page number(s). A mere list of works lacks the credibility of a properly cited article that shows the author actually went through the sources and examined their contents. - Biruitorul Talk 03:29, 25 March 2012 (UTC)


 * For the record, I did not make the comment to stress that he is a bad writer (I don't care either way, and would not assume that wikipedia needs my own opinion), but that the slim coverage he gets is also negative - people who read his works make brief mention of them so as to say "erm, no". They may or may not be right, but they're professionals in the field, and they are a good probe into Şandru's standing in his community. And, as Biruitorul says, just because the article has a vague list of works that may or may not mention Şandru (and, more importantly, to say what?), it doesn't mean we should casually assume that they also verify the text, or pretend that they stand in for real citations of said sources. Sending Biruitorul to buy himself the books and verify the references for the author is not a substitute. Dahn (talk) 18:21, 27 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, &mdash;SW&mdash; spill the beans 18:34, 30 March 2012 (UTC)


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