Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mireille Liong-A-Kong


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The result was keep. Davewild (talk) 20:55, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Mireille Liong-A-Kong

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BLP. non notable individual with no major press coverage. Ireneshih (talk) 04:36, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment - is it possible she qualifies as WP:AUTHOR? There are references to her book being very popular and a best-seller., . Maybe someone will find something that confirms this. —Мандичка YO 😜 06:18, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Strange, does writing one book qualify as WP:AUTHOR? —Мандичка, are you new on Wikipedia or related to the subject? Page is completely a balant hoax.Ireneshih (talk) 11:10, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
 * The first link I posted referred to the book as being a No. 1 best-seller, which, if confirmed, could meet the third criteria of WP:AUTHOR, if more reviews are found. Note I neither supported delete or keep, but merely left a comment., your questions asking me if I'm "new on Wikipedia" or related to the subject are so intriguing and plausible that I'm not going to answer them yet; I know there are people researching this as we speak, and I don't want to ruin it by putting a spoiler here. Also, it seems you don't know the definition of hoax, but please don't feel bad, I don't know what the word "balant" means.   —Мандичка YO 😜 20:03, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
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Keep - She published 3 books and Passes WP:AUTHOR 1) Kroeshaar wat je moet weten en meer: http://www.bol.com/nl/p/kroeshaar/1001004001839596/ Here is a review: http://www.suriname.nu/201cult/boek28.html

2) Going Natural How to Fall in Love with Nappy Hair. Plenty of reviews: http://aalbc.com/reviews/going_natural.htm http://www.natreview.com/2013/11/04/book-review-going-natural/ http://www.babebooks.com/hair/going-natural-how-to-fall-in-love-with-nappy-hair/

3) BAD Hair Uprooted: http://www.amazon.com/BAD-Hair-Uprooted-Celebration-Follicles-ebook/dp/B00M9O157W/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1431869477&sr=1-2 No reviews yet.

Antoher reivew for Going Natural http://www.blackcollegian.com/_DEVELOP/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1234:kam-williams&catid=32:xtra-books-and-literature&Itemid=135 Referenced: http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/exchange/node/10173

About the bestseller: http://www.myblackhair.nl/kroeshaar-boek-bestseller-op-amazon/?fb_action_ids=10153047509522713&fb_action_types=og.comments http://www.devsur.com/surinamese-author-nr-1-on-amazon/2015/03/31/

Review of her book: http://futuristicallyancient.com/category/hair/ http://www.curatenyc.org/2013/mireille-liong-entry

She has got very wide coverage, so her article should be kept. - Baaleditor (talk) 15:57, 19 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment- Baaleditor- It seems that you have conflict of interest with the page, not even a single reliable source and a clear promotional page. Are you a paid editor or related to the subject? Ireneshih (talk) 03:47, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Some more reliable sources: http://www.dwtonline.com/laatste-nieuws/2015/04/02/boek-surinaamse-schrijfster-bestseller-op-amazoncom/ http://www.joop.nl/opinies/detail/artikel/30434_de_blunder_van_keune_een_les_in_etnische_marketing/

Caribbean literature website: http://werkgroepcaraibischeletteren.nl/bad-hair-uprootedslecht-haar-ontworteld/ http://werkgroepcaraibischeletteren.nl/white-privilege/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.175.101.38 (talk) 13:27, 21 May 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 09:12, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment I don't think she qualifies on WP:AUTHOR - the references are mostly in minor sources, and most are not so much reviews of her book as statements about her position on "black hair" and "going natural." (BTW, the "Amazon Bestseller" statement is that she was #1 in the hair care area of Amazon. Unfortunately, Amazon US does not have such an area that I can find, which makes this hard to verify.) The books published in the US are by "Sabi Wiri Inc" press, which I can't find any information on, other than that "Sabi Wiri which means Know your Hair in Surinamese" and I believe is her own publishing house. . She might qualify on fashion and/or style, but I wouldn't know where to begin to find RS for that, especially since this is a niche area. I note also that she now resides in Brooklyn, NY, so I would expect to find more US sources if she is notable. I looked at the links provided by Baaleditor but wasn't impressed. In the article, #5 is an interview, #6 is not about her, #14 is a blog, #17 is a blog, #10 is 404. Without reliable sources, this needs to be a "delete." LaMona (talk) 00:25, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I completely agree with LaMona, the user has created few spam pages. All references are minor and doesn't qualify, claims to be No 1 Amazon seller is completely hoax. Page is a straightforward Salt and burn.Ireneshih (talk) 05:44, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   19:19, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - I found additional sources and feel she meets GNG., what do you think? , , , , ,  —Мандичка YO 😜 19:54, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
 * —Мандичка, these are the kinds of articles that I also found. My problem is that I don't know the fashion world, must less the Dutch/American black hair fashion world, so I am unsure of the importance of these publications. Clearly, this woman has has some impact -- I'm not sure, tho', how much. I'll go with weak keep.... but would really like this to be viewed by someone with a fashion sense. LaMona (talk) 20:24, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't know these "worlds" either but it's not too relevant, I don't think. I just look at their main page and click around to make sure it's an independent publication (ie not a blog or corporate) and search to make sure it's not a press release. Clutch magazine is a real printed magazine, as is the Harlem one (and site says it's been around 20 years). So I feel pretty comfortable with these. (I also don't agree with the assertion that is COI, since I would assume her own press person would have digital clippings available.)  —Мандичка YO 😜 20:34, 31 May 2015 (UTC)


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