Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Misa Kobayashi


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The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 02:32, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Misa Kobayashi

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Unnotable person. Fails WP:BIO, WP:ENTERTAINER, and WP:N. Failed prod and CSD A7 with both tags removed by User:Dream Focus (non-administrator) with reasons of "has worked as a voice actor on several notable series" and "I object. An actor in three notable series gets an article, so why not voice actors the same way?". Only three minor roles, no sources, and no significant coverage. -- Collectonian  (talk · contribs) 02:29, 16 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions. -- --  Collectonian  (talk · contribs) 02:30, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * User X! also erased the tag, which clearly states, anyone who disagrees with it should do so. You don't have to be an administrator.  And why bring that up here?  Anyway, I vote *Keep since the person has played a notable part in a significant body of work.   D r e a m Focus  02:47, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Because it is appropriate to note that an article is a failed Prod and CSD and that the CSD was declined by a non-admin. Also X! is an administrator so it was fine for him to remove it. -- Collectonian  (talk · contribs) 02:50, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually he said in his edit "rv, csds can be removed by anyone, not just admins.)"  D r e a m Focus  10:39, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment: Chizuru Naba does not seem to be a notable character, barely mentioned on List of Negima!: Magister Negi Magi characters, Lilith Sahl is listed as supporting on List of Trinity Blood characters, and I can't find a Hiromi anywhere on the collection of Hell Girl articles, with the exception of an artist who worked on the soundtracks. Which character is the notable one? ~ Itzjustdrama C  ? 02:54, 16 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment: I had a look at this as well and agree with your listed findings on the roles mentioned in the article currently. I did find an additional role not listed on the subject's page but it is listed on the page of the series and seems more significant. The series is Kurau Phantom Memory and it seems the subject voiced one of the main characters (Christmas). There are some other roles listed here but I don't really know enough about anime to know if any others listed are significant. Camw (talk) 03:05, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I think the notable role count is two so far now. ~ Itzjustdrama C  ? 03:08, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I did a quick search of the roles and it seems like the Negima and Kurau Phantom Memory role are notable. I'm not sure about Wan Wan Serebu Soreyuke! Tetsunoshin as I have no idea what that's about. ~ Itzjustdrama C  ? 03:13, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * If someone here can read Japanese, is this the same person and are there any other roles listed here -> that might be notable? I know another Wiki page isn't a reliable source, but if there is anything of value on that page it might make it easier to look for other sources to check.  Camw (talk) 03:16, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Hiromi is a one-episode character that appears in episode 9. No other role in the series beyond that. -- Collectonian  (talk · contribs) 03:01, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Just noticed that on the ANN entry. And I finally found Chizuru. Those Negima character lists need cleaning. There's only one notable role. The ANN entry lists the rest as minor. I'm leaning toward Delete unless more notable roles can be dug up. ~ Itzjustdrama C  ? 03:08, 16 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete No reliable sources that establish notability. --Sloane (talk) 02:57, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Note I've added a more complete filmography to the article. However, judging from the list Chizuru Naba is still her most significant role, even if the character is a minor character in the whole Nagima! franchise. --Farix (Talk) 03:13, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. - If the filmography is accurate, seems to me Kobayashi meets the threshold for an up-and-coming voice actor. It's a close call, but I think we should err on the side of inclusion. Proxy User (talk) 05:01, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Weak delete I tend toward inclusion on seiyū, but the roles listed in this case are exceedingly minor. Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  13:41, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete pernom: no clear notability. Eusebeus (talk) 18:02, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:01, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions.  —Fg2 (talk) 00:53, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete unless more reliable third-party reference sources can be provided to demonstrate notability. --DAJF (talk) 05:08, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete When all is said and done, she has only had one significant voice acting role (Christmas in Kurau: Phantom Memory). Her role as Chizuru Naba in the various Negima! series isn't that significant as the character is simply a reoccurring background character. This isn't enough to pass WP:ENTERTAINER. --Farix (Talk) 02:05, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete No notable roles yet. No prejudice against recreation should this change in the future. Edward321 (talk) 02:08, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep: referenced roles in 14 works notable enough to have Wikipedia articles. So the article must meet the WP:ENTERTAINER notability guideline for entertainers, which reads "Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television, stage performances, or other productions".  T L Miles (talk) 18:26, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Note the requirement of "significant roles"; all except one of those roles was exceedingly minor. Its also not sourced to a reliable reference. -- Collectonian  (talk · contribs) 18:52, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Query: I can't seem to find an entry for www.animenewsnetwork.com on Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard? Could you point me to that as well as the definition of "significant roles" in WP:ENTERTAINER? Thanks.  T L Miles (talk) 02:27, 21 March 2009 (UTC)


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