Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Miss Israel 1969


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Miss Israel. ✗ plicit  23:53, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

Miss Israel 1969

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The subject of this article does not have multiple reliable sources, demonstrating a lack significant coverage. As such the WP:GNG is not met. Miss Israel itself is certainly notable, however the subject of this article does not inherit that notability as an associate. I hence propose this article be deleted. There is already a list of 'Miss Israel' and this event is included in that list. Most years do not have their own stand-alone article, and there is nothing about the subject of this article making it sufficiently notable for it's own page, especially because the main information in this article is already included in the Miss Israel list. Such-change47 (talk) 23:47, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Beauty pageants-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 00:29, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 00:29, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Israel-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 00:30, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment. At the risk of being accused of WP:OTHERSTUFF, I'm curious why the nominator chose this page to nominate instead of, for example, Miss Israel 1968 or Miss Israel 1970. pburka (talk) 00:51, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Neutral comment The current pageant deletion strategy is instead of a bulk nom that'll get called out for lack of WP:BEFORE, they tend to bring one random year up for nomination and then if successful, then build a bulk nom with the rationale '1969 was deleted, so now we can delete the rest', thinking we'll forget this is also a solid AfD rationale/result...  Nate  • ( chatter ) 01:05, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment and  Honestly, such a fair question. As a newcomer I do a lot of 'suggested edit' tasks. When I come across pages I think meet criteria for deletion, I nom. I did not nominate the other pages because this is the one which came across. Happy for the others to be nominated also, if there is no sigcov then they should just remain in the list and not have their own article. I may not have gone about this properly - ought I have nominated all of them together in a group? Is that allowed? I do not want to be seen as a newcomer who just floods AFD with too many noms.Such-change47 (talk) 13:28, 28 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Miss Israel per WP:CHEAP.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 01:05, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment - I agree with pburka and wonder why this particular year is being picked out for deletion, and others aren't when the concept is presumably equally notable. Either the standard of notability justifies this sort of page for yearly records of Miss Israel, or it doesn't. Deathlibrarian (talk) 08:10, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment Agreed; the entire deletion pattern of pageant articles under a claim of GNG not being met has been sketchy for years, which is why I try to push against it (and a rd at least allows for the ability to still add sources, return it as a separate article, but if it can't, keep the article in history rather than be deleted). The deletionist targeting of media mainly featuring women (lately seeming to also encompass every made-for-TV film in the '90s and '00s, along with Hallmark Channel films) is something I'm very uncomfortable with, when we have a lot of bad made-for-DVD (now streaming) action films that are only notable for paying off has-been actor's mortgages rather than ever being watched outside of a small critic base that's like 'yes, this is bad, a yule log has more entertainment', yet somehow pass WP:N because of the has-been actor...while we delete women-led films because a deletionist seems embarrassed to type in 'Danielle Steele's (novel title)' in Google.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 02:38, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
 * That is a concern.Yes, you can see some years listed here and some missing, I'm wondering if that's because they were deleted. Deathlibrarian (talk) 04:30, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Going by the article creator's talk page, it looked like they had good intentions, but were chased of by what I consider hostile and unhelpful scolds and very unhelpful template warnings, along with en bloc PRODs. Can't blame them for sticking to category space after that.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 05:24, 28 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Redirect per Nate. Heartmusic678 (talk) 11:36, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Miss Israel as an WP:ATD. With regards to nominating a single article, I strongly prefer this method versus if this were a mass nom. If this one is a redirect (as it is leaning) you could do a mass nom at AfD to WP:BLAR the pages. snood1205 14:33, 30 December 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.