Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Miss Liechtenstein


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The result was no consensus. with no prejudice against speedy renomination. (non-admin closure) Spirit of Eagle (talk) 05:15, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Miss Liechtenstein

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A synthesis of different events with different organizers completely lacking sources. The promise that German wiki has more is disappointing for it has the same scant info. the suggestion by the infobox that this topic is related to other countries is unproven. Legacypac (talk) 13:15, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 01:16, 6 January 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 02:37, 13 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep - I spent a few hours getting this article up to snuff. It's not a big deal (a cow contest that crowns its winner as "Miss Liechtenstein" seems to be more popular ), but it's a real, sporadic contest and it passes WP:GNG. See in particular the citations to Liechtensteiner Vaterland, Triesenberg Dorfspiegel, and Blick. A2soup (talk) 11:37, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:GNG and A2soup's sources and improvements to the article. Ejgreen77 (talk) 12:09, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I appreciate the research and you proved the article is a synthesis of different unrelated events which awarded the same title and each received minor local coverage. I've changed the first sentence to reflect that. Since we have an article about the title, not a given event, the fantastic cow contest that awards the same title should also be included here as it is just as important as the other sporadic shows that parade women like livestock on a stage. Legacypac (talk) 17:48, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
 * You misunderstand how beauty pageants work a bit. The contests are sometimes sponsored by different groups from year to year, but the title is in theory the same. Whether the contest is organized and sponsored by the Miss Voralberg Corporation or Verein Miss Liechtenstein, it is a contest for the same title, that of Miss Liechtenstein. This continuity is made explicit in the Triesenberg Dorfspiegel and Blick sources. The cow contest is a different contest, and even though the title awarded has the same name, it is obviously a different title. None of the pageant articles mention the cow contest or vice versa. If you think the cow contest deserves its own article, it should be a separate article with Miss Liechtenstein being a dab page. A2soup (talk) 18:02, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I understand beauty pageants better then your average person. Because this title evidently not trademarked, you and I could go sponsor the Miss Liechtenstein contest next year with no connection to the previous human or cow events. We could even hold competing contests with each other and we could even hold the event in another country like Miss Afghanistan was held in Germany. There are at least 4 Miss Liechtenstein contests including the cows, none of which are connected to each other much more then the Miss Liechtenstein contest I'm throwing in my backyard next month. Legacypac (talk) 18:13, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm sure that it's disorganized, but the sources explicitly attest continuity with past pageants while omitting any mention of the cow contest. Whether this continuity is legally enforced is a different matter. Feel free to clarify this in the article, but I feel that mentions of different sponsors are sufficient. A2soup (talk) 18:19, 20 January 2016 (UTC)


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