Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Miss New York Chinese Pageant


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The result was   keep. Mark Arsten (talk) 03:41, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Miss New York Chinese Pageant

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Fails WP:N; only source is its own website. — Jeremy  v^_^v  Bori! 21:20, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
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 * Keep: Despite my initial reactions that it sounded highly deletable due to lack of independent sources, I found a few sources including this article from the New York Times solely about this pageant. Quite a few articles on Meniscuszine.com too. I noticed a couple of references to it being simultaneously broadcast in China at the same time as it is on. An article from a Asian Fusion magazine here. There are probably quite a number of additional sources in Chinese language media too. Although I am indifferent to beauty pageants, I think this one might be a bit more notable than it initially seems, hence my leaning keep vote. It actually seems to be legitimate and certainly doesn't sound anywhere near as dubious/shady as some of the other pageants that have come up for AFD. Mabalu (talk) 02:22, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
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 * Keep - Meets WP:GNG per NYT article, Asian Fusion article and articles at . Northamerica1000(talk) 10:28, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
 * They need to be cited for the article to meet WP:GNG, remember. — Jeremy  v^_^v  Bori! 19:50, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
 * User:Jéské Couriano: Actually, this is not true, per WP:NRVE, "The absence of citations in an article (as distinct from the non-existence of sources) does not indicate that the subject is not notable." Northamerica1000(talk) 20:10, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
 * That may be, but as it is the article is essentially unsourced, as the only source there (at time of AfD) was its own website. — Jeremy  v^_^v  Bori! 02:50, 3 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep. There are plenty of RS available. Just tag the article for cleanup. STSC (talk) 08:46, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
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