Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Missouri Collegiate Mathematics Competition


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The result was delete.-- Kubigula (talk) 14:27, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Missouri Collegiate Mathematics Competition

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While the Mathematical Association of America is notable, its regional chapters are not; cf. WP:ORG. Nor are events organized by the local sections - it seems that each sections holds a similar event. No independent sources have been given, the article cites only the organization's web pages. Also, via Google, I found only coverage by the sponsoring university and participants. A merger to the main organization's article does not seem appropriate per this discussion. -- Sent here as part of the Notability wikiproject. --B. Wolterding 16:14, 15 October 2007 (UTC) "As far as notability goes, just have a look at the articles on college football games on Wikipedia like this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friends_of_Coal_Bowl and you'll see that this collegiate competition, although not physical and not for-profit, should still be allowed an article. Synesthetic 02:58, 15 October 2007 (UTC)" --Horoball 03:57, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Not seeing any third-party sources listed, much less an explanation of notability. --Gwern (contribs) 17:40 15 October 2007 (GMT)
 * Keep. Thirty-three colleges for an event like this is substantial.  The MAA is the predominant organization for this kind of activity.  Perhaps Wikipedia would be somehow overwhelmed if we keep future articles such as this.  But that's hard to imagine.  Additionally, Wikipedia is far overwhelmed by articles on other kinds of activities.  Note I am not making a "other crap exists" argument.  Rather I am making a "many other articles of a similar ilk has been deemed keep-able so maybe there is some kind of prejudice here against this type of acitivity" argument.  As the creator of the article commented on the talk page:


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,


 * Comparing this mathematics competition with football matches does not lead very far, I think. Rather, the criterion in WP:N (both for football and mathematics) is: Has the subject been covered in independent sources? That would include the mainstream press, for example, but would exclude publications by the MAA and participating universities. I'm not aware of such independent coverage however. --B. Wolterding 08:32, 22 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete The arguments above are in fact 'other crap exists' arguments. What we need are multiple independent reliable sources for this. There seem to be none.Obina 19:58, 22 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete I tried to look for sources, and I did find . It's a good source, but it's only one source. If another reliable source is found, I think the article's subject is notable. — Ksero 20:29, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't think that's an independent source. It's a student newspaper at the University of Missouri (one of the participants). --B. Wolterding 08:53, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete or Merge into Mathematical Association of America. As to the football analogy of the author, that seems to be a tu quoque. Whether that bowl game is notable or not, this article doesn't seem to be. JFlav 23:02, 23 October 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.