Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mister Saint Laurent (3rd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. czar 08:52, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

Mister Saint Laurent
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I am baffled as to how this article has been able to remain on Wikipedia for the last 10 years when it was already voted for a delete in 2008. This person had less than 50 wrestling matches in his whole career, and most notable professional wrestlers will have over 300 matches in a year, and even low level independent wrestlers will have at least over 100 a year. He never performed for a large wrestling organisation, and never performed on television. Being a podcaster is not noteworthy as there are other podcasters like Conrad Thompson who is a lot more well-known by wrestling fans, but he doesn't have a page. Leaking a couple of Guns N Roses songs isn't a noteworthy act either. Other people in the world have leaked songs from records that haven't been released yet and they don't have an article all to themselves. 6SyXx6 (talk) 04:47, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
 * To clarify to article has not been around since 2008. It was deleted then, later recreated and kept in a second AFD in 2013.--67.68.21.146 (talk) 00:02, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Can you explain to me how an article can be voted for deletion but be allowed to be re-created? This person is no more notable than they were at the time of the 2008 deletion. 6SyXx6 (talk) 15:05, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
 * More and better coverage can appear after some time, so AfDs aren't meant to last as judgement forever. Perhaps way back it had much worse sourcing. Mr. Magoo (talk) 05:08, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Wrestling-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 04:49, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 04:49, 11 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete - First, let me say that none of the nominator's rationale for deletion is per policy (sounds a lot like WP:IDONTLIKEIT and WP:OTHERSTUFF). With that said, almost all of the sources in the article are wrestling databases and wrestling news sites (not reliable sources) and don't add up to "significant coverage in reliable independent sources". The article from Classic Rock magazine might be good, but the link doesn't work. I also found an interview in Downtown magazine, but one article + one unconfirmed article doesn't add up to significant coverage either. There does seem to be some mentions of the radio show here and there, but notability is not inherited. Nikki  ♥  311   18:20, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete I participated in the last AfD from four years ago but I was able to recall it. One editor was able to convince most voters that the subject was notable by putting any source that mentioned him, regardless of reliability, in the article. I scratched by delete !vote, but mentioned then that there was a lot of padding going on. As Nikki points out, most of these sources aren't reliable. The ones that are contain passing mentions of the subject. His Championships and Accomplishments section is impressive at first glance as he's listed as having held the prestigious AWA World Tag Team Championship. This is also misleading; he held the WSL World Tag Team Championship, whose company used to be known as AWA Superstars of Wrestling until they were forced to change their name after a copyright claim.LM2000 (talk) 02:07, 14 September 2017 (UTC)


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