Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mitch Owens


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The result was delete.  MBisanz  talk 03:24, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

Mitch Owens

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Fails WP:POLITICIAN. An interim mayor of Gloucester, Ontario (pop. 133K in 2016) who lost the subsequent election to Harry Allen (Gloucester, Ontario politician) (whose article has also been nominated for deletion). Clarityfiend (talk) 08:06, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 09:02, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ontario-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 09:02, 21 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete Non-notable politician, therefore fails WP:POLITICIAN. Lefcentreright  Talk   10:32, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. Mayor of a sizeable town. The collection of references justify its inclusion. - SimonP (talk) 16:24, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I do not know how you could consider Gloucester as a "sizeable town" when it is frankly no longer one (it is now a suburb of Ottawa) and even if it was, it would be the tenth largest in the province. Just being a mayor of town, is not enough reason for a Wikipedia article to be created. Mitch Owens is not notable at all. He has received no major news coverage at all. The reference section clearly suggests it. Lefcentreright  Talk   19:30, 21 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep. Gloucester wasn't a town, it was a city, and a city of 100,000 people is very clearly large enough to warrant an article. -- Earl Andrew - talk 05:30, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
 * The city, sure. The interim mayor, not so much. The 100K number does not automatically confer notability. Clarityfiend (talk) 09:06, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Just being an local elected figure is not enough warrant for a Wikipedia article to be created. If you do not believe me, WP:POLITICIAN says so. Lefcentreright  Talk   12:06, 22 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete unless the article sees significant improvement. The idea that a city's population hands its mayors an automatic notability freebie regardless of the article's quality or sourceability was deprecated almost a decade ago now — regardless of a town's or city's size, the notability standard that a mayor has to clear to earn an article in 2019 is the ability to write and source a substantive article that contextualizes and analyzes his importance. But that's not what this article does; it literally just states that he was appointed mayor after his predecessor's death and then was defeated in the first subsequent municipal election, says nothing whatsoever about anything he did in the mayor's chair, and then goes on to list a bunch of minor awards that aren't instant WP:ANYBIO passes. And the referencing isn't solid enough to get him over the bar that mayors actually have to clear, either: five of the nine footnotes are primary sources that are not support for notability at all, two of the four that are real media just go to verifiability of election results and don't speak to the notability of the people named in the election results at all, and the two sources that are actually about Mitch Owens in any non-trivial way aren't enough since it takes a lot more than just two sources to get a mayor over WP:NPOL #2. Mayors are not automatically notable just because you can verify that they existed; they are notable only when you can add enough sources to demonstrate that their mayoralty was important in some substantive way. Bearcat (talk) 15:30, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete the sourcing is inadequate to show notability, and being interim mayor is not a default sign of notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 22:49, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. Fails WP:SIGCOV and WP:GNG.4meter4 (talk) 02:49, 29 September 2019 (UTC)


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