Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mitchel P. Goldman


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) – Davey 2010 Talk 02:57, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Mitchel P. Goldman

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appears non-notable Tone of article is also promotional, and article was created by. Mdann52 (talk) 21:28, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep Meets notability because of extensive publications. But WP:TNT for sure. —Мандичка YO 😜 21:43, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
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 * Delete per WP:TNT. He probably meets WP:PROF (not through quantity of pubs but through high citation counts) but the pay-for-play issue makes me disinclined to let him get any amount of promotion for his dollars. Better just to delete it and wait until someone without a conflict of interest cares enough to create a properly neutral article. (Or blow it up again, if he tries to promote himself this way again.) —David Eppstein (talk) 00:16, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep and fix: The subject's publications have been cited 9,375 times, with an h-index of 55 (i.e. 55 of the subject's publications have been cited over 55 times): which clearly shows that the subject has made a significant impact in his field, thus it meets WP:NACADEMICS. I don't see any very major issues in the article (not much promotional content): no need to delete and start over again (see WP:BEFORE § c1). The article has since (after the block of for long-term abuse and sockpuppetry) been substantially edited by non-affiliated editors to remove the promotional content. Esquivalience  t 01:28, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:TNT. Horrific article with vastly inadequate and promotional sourcing (an Amazon author profile? Really?) Goldman meets WP:ACADEMIC and we should have an article on him, but this is irredeemable. --Randykitty (talk) 10:33, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep I took out almost all of the assertions that I couldn't attribute to independent sources. There are still two self-published references (one to his DOB and another to his medical practice), but those can be easily removed as well. EricEnfermero (Talk) 21:43, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep, article has been cleaned up and the subject is notable enough. Self-published sources for trivial biographical information are fine. I agree it's unfortunate (and a systemic bias issue) that notable people who self-promote are the ones who end up with articles in topics with patchy coverage. Opabinia regalis (talk) 19:33, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
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