Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mitchell Waite


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) ‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__ SL93 (talk) 22:39, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

Mitchell Waite

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I found no significant coverage, there is none in the article, and it reads like an advertisement. A PROD was contested in 2013. SL93 (talk) 01:32, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Authors, Computing,  and California.  WC  Quidditch   ☎   ✎  01:36, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom; too promotional and too much unsourced content. Walsh90210 (talk) 02:07, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Based on the sources shown by SouthernNights, my first preference would be to redirect/repurpose the article to be about The Waite Group. The notability is entirely based on the books published, but there is probably enough coverage.  (If there are sources that aren't contemporaneous trade magazines, I will strike my vote.) Walsh90210 (talk) 00:03, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I tried to look for recent coverage, but there are so many hits about books I couldn't tell. Which is sufficient evidence this shouldn't be deleted.  It needs cleanup, (and with the existing sources might need to be repurposed to be about the publishing firm), but shouldn't be deleted outright. Walsh90210 (talk) 02:20, 30 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete does not seem to meet notability standards of WP:AUTHOR GuyBanks (talk) 02:07, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep based on new information found and provided by SouthernNights GuyBanks (talk) 17:06, 30 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete : Very PROMO. I can only find places to buy his books, no reviews... Nothing about this individual either, no mentions in RS. delete for lack of sourcing Oaktree b (talk) 03:05, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep. Yes, the article needs a rewrite and citations. However, it turns out this guy was a big deal in 1970s and '80s computing. A search in the Wikipedia Library turned up a few reviews of his work in a places such as SciTech Book News and BioScience, along with this article in the New York Times covering some his work (link) and this article from another newspaper where Waite discusses his memories of Steve Jobs. However, where I was truly overwhelmed with citations supporting this person's notability was in a search in the Internet Archive. Turns out his work was heavily covered in computer magazines and journals of the 1970s and '80s, with that search returning over a thousand results. Yes, some the results are ads for his books but there are also what appear to be hundreds of reviews or mentions of his books in Compute!, Byte Magazine, Creative Computing, and many other publications. For examples of these reviews, see the following links: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10. Please note there are many more reviews, so I'm not attempting to link to all of them. As another example of his notability, the June 1986 issue of Amstrad Computer User states that "The de facto references in this sphere are the works of one Mitchell Waite who, with a crew of collaborators made writing CP/M hooks a one-man industry in the CP/M heyday around 1980." (link). Based on all these reviews of his work, I believe the subject meets the notability guidelines at WP:Author. --SouthernNights (talk) 19:55, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
 * You have definitely shown notability. I wish I could withdraw this, but I can't with three prior deletes. SL93 (talk) 23:14, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
 * It appears one of the editors changed their mind. Perhaps if we contact the other two editors and ask them to weigh in? I'm also willing to work on improving the article with the citations and other info I've found if the article is kept. SouthernNights (talk) 14:14, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I've now cleaned up the article and added new info and citations. Also, Waite's life and work is heavily featured in a large section of the book Code Nation: Personal Computing and the Learn to Program Movement in America. I've added info from this to the article. That book makes a strong case that Waite was instrumental through his books in encouraging the "rapid development of the Mac platform in the 1980s." SouthernNights (talk) 15:26, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep The new sources added from the 1990s help improve the article, we have enough to show notability now. Oaktree b (talk) 15:42, 30 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Keep: per SouthernNights, although the article will have to be rewritten and re-sourced  C F A   💬  16:04, 30 June 2024 (UTC)


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